Juggler Rescuing King - PAINTING STAGE

Join 500,000+ Artists

Its' free and it takes less than 10 seconds!

Join the #1 Art Workshop - LevelUpJoin Premium Art Workshop

Results 1 to 22 of 22
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    Juggler Rescuing King - PAINTING STAGE

    Leaving this post empty for ease of updating the thread thumbnail. The real opening post is below.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Last edited by thegiffman; March 24th, 2013 at 11:16 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Hi Everyone, it's Giff again with another painting in my slower-than-molasses project for my son. My sister wrote a story featuring my now 8-year-old as a medieval juggler rescuing a king from bandits. I'm illustrating it in an attempt to get into digital painting. Previous WIP's are here:

    Medieval Street
    Bandits Under a Tree
    General Character Work

    This painting will show the juggler throwing the (now unarmed) bandits' knives up to the ropes where the king has been hanging, snapping them so that he is free to fall (hopefully) harmlessly to the ground. A few worried soldiers are running up to catch him, while another soldier attempts to run down the fleeing bandits.

    I've included a layout of the scene as I see it, and also thumbnails of the last five paintings to get a sense of how this one flows with the previous ones. Finally, I've done six thumbnails to explore different ways the painting might be laid out.

    Opinions on the thumbnails are very welcome, as well as suggestions for alternate angles that I haven't thought of.

    Finally, just a shout out to the ConceptArt.org community: y'all rock. I've improved so much over the last couple years, and am deeply grateful for the guidance I've been given - even when I responded less than graciously at the time. Thank you all so much for the gift of your time and energy.

    Attached Images Attached Images      
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    OK, here's my favorite thumbnail pushed a little further. Let's see if this new image uploader works...

    Name:  mentor.jpg
Views: 658
Size:  79.1 KB

    Here's the perspective guides.

    Name:  Untitled-2.jpg
Views: 662
Size:  138.2 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    62
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Careful, that 8-year-old juggler is looking a bit too tall and lanky to be a convincing child.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here's some more careful work on the main figures using some reference photos.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Last edited by thegiffman; December 13th, 2012 at 10:55 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    The soldier on the lower-right

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Another pass at the painting - more detail and a value layout.

    Name:  mentor.jpg
Views: 504
Size:  167.4 KB

    Name:  boys.jpg
Views: 506
Size:  107.8 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Added the knife in the foreground.

    Name:  boys.jpg
Views: 497
Size:  107.4 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    deleted double post

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    More detail

    Name:  mentor.jpg
Views: 466
Size:  128.0 KB

    Name:  boys.jpg
Views: 465
Size:  91.6 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here's an update - contour lines, linework, and a value breakdown.

    Name:  Sundered06.jpg
Views: 385
Size:  206.4 KB

    Last edited by thegiffman; March 16th, 2013 at 03:40 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Some base colors. I'm enjoying the challenge of making the shadowed foreground figures dynamic and colorful and the background figures in direct sunlight washed out.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  14. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    318
    Thanks
    198
    Thanked 143 Times in 110 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    The pursuit soldier make me laught, I just imagine him roaring while running. Love the one that try to catch the king too !

    I just find the right leg of the little hero a little strange, something missing to indicate that's a shortcut I think...

    * My current blog
    * Sketchbook page on CA.org coming soon...

    Have a good and creative day !
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here's the reference:

    Name:  Untitled-1.jpg
Views: 324
Size:  129.6 KB

    Any thoughts on what is causing the leg in the drawing to look weird?

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Sweden, but originally from Amsterdam
    Posts
    48
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    In the ref you can draw a nice curved line following the middleline of the torso from his left heel to the head. In your drawing, the heel is placed much more to the side, rather than under his body, that might be the problem (:

    Last edited by Theeroos; March 25th, 2013 at 05:24 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to Theeroos For This Useful Post:


  18. #16
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Belgium
    Posts
    318
    Thanks
    198
    Thanked 143 Times in 110 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Yup, plus I think you disabled the pelvis shortcut that you have on the reference. That part helped a lot on the photo to understand the legs are placed and how the body bend.
    Maybe the dungarees should have some folds added to help the perspective of the body ?

    * My current blog
    * Sketchbook page on CA.org coming soon...

    Have a good and creative day !
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  19. #17
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I think this is a lot better. That was very helpful - thanks for the critique.

    Name:  Sundered06.jpg
Views: 292
Size:  124.2 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  20. #18
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here's a neat (but maybe too computerized by half?) technique for adding indirect lighting. I take a rough estimate of the environment near the ground, blur the heck out of it, and take five representitive colors. Then I paint over my figures using the contours to determine what lighting they should get. Directly above is darker and greener, more to the side is bluer and lighter, and then down is darker and browner. Finally, I apply that layer using the soft light blend mode. I like it!

    Name:  Sundered06.jpg
Views: 246
Size:  243.4 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  21. #19
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ok, here its a little more developed.

    Name:  Sundered06.jpg
Views: 213
Size:  224.4 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  22. #20
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    1,250
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 222 Times in 170 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    The narrative's a bit confusing. Why are there so many knives stuck in the tree, from different angles? Have they been throwing knives at the king for sport? One of them should have gone straight through the king, and one has even been thrown from above.

    The kid is holding the knife as if he would strike with it. If he held it from the tip of the blade (or the tip of the shaft) it'd be more obvious that he's throwing them. Some variants on knife-throwing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEzY_QzyhA

    But why is he still throwing knives know that the king is free? It took me a while to realize that he was the one doing the throwing, but when I did I couldn't figure out if he was trying to free him or kill him and had accidentally set him free.

    And where does the front knife come from? It looks like the king threw it, which is even more confusing.

    Also, if the king had kept his royal robes, it'd be easier to understand why he's hanging from a tree. Why'd he change clothes? Is it to shame him? Why give him new, perfectly clean and whole clothes then?

    - Current project <- Crit away!
    - The Whyatt Sketchbook Any tips appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by Venger
    sometimes your first thought is always right
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  23. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    1,250
    Thanks
    186
    Thanked 222 Times in 170 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Comparing with your previous panels, I see you've done a visual 180. That is, you've spun the whole scene around and showing it from the opposite side. In comics and film that should be avoided if possible, since following a straight narrative is easier than a flipped one.

    - Current project <- Crit away!
    - The Whyatt Sketchbook Any tips appreciated

    Quote Originally Posted by Venger
    sometimes your first thought is always right
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  24. #22
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Asia
    Posts
    277
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 70 Times in 40 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here's the final painting - thanks for the input.

    Whyatt, thanks for the comments. Some of your observations are made clearer by the narrative. Specifically, he is "juggling" the knives, not throwing them like a knife thrower. It's a bit clownish, thus the haphazard layout. The king was stripped to his tunic in the narrative. The point about the reversed layout is a good one - didn't even notice that.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • 424,149 Artists
  • 3,599,276 Artist Posts
  • 32,941 Sketchbooks
  • 54 New Art Jobs
Art Workshop Discount Inside
Register

Developed Actively by vBSocial.com
The Art Department
SpringOfSea's Sketchbook