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    Andrew loomis....wtf? typo?

    In the beginning part of andrew loomis's drawing heads and hand book. He explains how to construct the head using a sphere. He says the equator is the brow line, half way up the axis is the hair line and the length of the nose is equal to the length from the browline to the hairline and the lenth of the chin is the same as the nose. Using his method, I keep getting strange results.

    If I construct the head in a 3 quarter view I don't have a problem, the head seem to come out proportionally normal.

    but if I do it with the head facing directly at the front, I get a midget.

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    Okay, nevermind.

    It is because the ball is curve so there is more space bewteen the equator and the axis, so the hairline looks much higher in the front

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    I think you also need to shave off more from the sides of the ball. From the front, the width of the head is 2/3 of its height.



    EDIT: Shoot, I didn't even notice that you hadn't extended the jaw down from the sphere. eezacque and dierat are right: the sphere doesn't include the jaw!

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    You really need to extend the face downward from the ball: it is only the cranium which more or less resembles a ball. Everything underneath the nose needs to be constructed in addition. As Loomis points out: drop the middle line straight down.

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    The cranium is created from the sphere, and the jaw comes from the wedge attached on the bottom. Your circle face basically has no jaw attached and you're shmushing the mouth and chin up to compensate.

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    you guys are not getting what im saying...
    I know the proportion of the face, not what this guy wrote in his book earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteJ View Post
    you guys are not getting what im saying...
    I know the proportion of the face, not what this guy wrote in his book earlier.
    Maybe just follow the instructions?

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    thanks for the videos, that explained it better.

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    There's a frontal view in one of the Loomis books--

    The "ball" intersects with the bottom of the lower lip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteJ View Post
    you guys are not getting what im saying...
    I know the proportion of the face, not what this guy wrote in his book earlier.
    No, you're not getting what he wrote in his book earlier: "We drop the middle line straight down off the ball". Keep working on it.

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    tried again
    excuse me for the messiness ghost marks I reused the paper

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    PeteJ got confused because looms noted that "the hairline should be about halfway between the brow line and the axis". When drawing front view the axis is at the top and the brow line is in the middle of the cranium sphere.
    The mistake is by marking the middle line neglecting that you are drawing a 3d object.
    All measured ratios are relevant to the 3d object and not the 2d drawing. When front view is projected on a 2d plane the hairline is much closer to the top then to the equator.
    In any case, I see you figured it out by yourself. The last drawings look much better.

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