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    "Art" creation is an activity...the learning is to be found in the doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    "Art" creation is an activity...the learning is to be found in the doing.
    I think that applies to a lot of activities honestly. Even scientific ones...

    Say a guy wants to get better at 3 pointers and he's got a coach. Let's say for every shot that guy tries to make he talks to his coach about how to improve the shot for 30 minutes because he's worried about getting it right and the quickest method. It takes 2 minutes to probably make the shot. Now start multiplying that.

    For every 3 shots, 6 minutes and 90 minutes of talking. Do you see how ridiculous that is?

    I wish people would actually sit down and time themselves from "asking and browsing questions on the forums" vs practice time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battlebattle View Post
    i honestly cant believe this forum sometimes.
    elwell, did you really just "offer" to ban that guy for having an different opinion?

    its like, some self taught artist who started on here told everybody i just worked hard! thats the secret. and if you dont completely just blindly unwaveringly with no question believe in that asinine montra youre an outsider.

    youre not allowed to be new, or to ask questions, or to ask for specific answers.

    of course youre going to get what we as people have been doing it for years know are more "stupid" questions...but "stop whining start working" isnt the ultimate answer and that shit really does need to change.
    This coming from a guy who started 17 threads in the art discussion forum asking for specific answers. I just perused each of them and all I saw was helpful advice given. Although a couple of times you snapped at people for not knowing exactly what you were asking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasCottom View Post
    CA.org seems to put a huge effort in thwarting this, by having tons of stickies and sub-forums. But as a new comer, most people get the impression they are supposed to ask questions. But, yeah, I learned years ago to read the "read this if new to this forum" Most forums have this sticky. Now I'm gonna crawl back in my hole, because I just asked a dumb question a few minutes ago.
    Don't. We don't actually bite - mostly. I know a lot of the members can be sarcastic, including me, but someone will always answer the question.

    The main reason I like CA is because it's not precious about trampling on one's feelings. The rude replies are the quickest way to bring you up short and make you think about what you actually asked and was it really necessary.

    Now how do I start learning how to draw again? Please use one syllable words for your answer - I'm a bit thick you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    Don't. We don't actually bite - mostly. I know a lot of the members can be sarcastic, including me, but someone will always answer the question.

    The main reason I like CA is because it's not precious about trampling on one's feelings. The rude replies are the quickest way to bring you up short and make you think about what you actually asked and was it really necessary.

    Now how do I start learning how to draw again? Please use one syllable words for your answer - I'm a bit thick you know.
    Yes, someone always answers the question, and with good explanations too. But is it necessary to be rude? As I said earlier, English is not primary language for most the members and sometimes they take a light humor as offense. Cultural difference may be.

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    I feel like we are going in circles.

    Its best to learn now what to take as offense and what to shrug off. Along
    with all the basic foundations, a necessary part of this industry is having a thick
    skin. Besides, the language barrier does not fly anymore. It's only a minority
    of members that throw a hissy fit when people don't cater to their sensitive
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    Suck it up.

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    very nice thread =D

    Alright, I don't want to come off as being pretentious because I know for a fact that I am no better than anyone here in terms of expertise or skill level. The best advice I was ever given and I believe is the answer to most question to ramblings and productivity is simply "have fun". The problem manifests when art starts to become a chore, where you must study this, do that, I have to be better at this and that. You always end up with negitive vibes in your mentality where you lose sight of the fun or good over the bad. You should always enjoy your'self in the process of what ever you do and not contemplate the tediousness which inherently makes you lazy in the end.

    Enjoying my self while doing studies, paintings or simply doodling takes me away for hours without even knowing. I enjoy this feeling and wouldn't trade it for anything...if that's possible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NajamQ View Post
    Yes, someone always answers the question, and with good explanations too. But is it necessary to be rude? As I said earlier, English is not primary language for most the members and sometimes they take a light humor as offense. Cultural difference may be.
    The more you reply, the more I want to close this thread. You still haven't posted art, but spend more time countering replies when the same things have been stated since you have decided to use this forum. You've been here for years, then it is no longer an excuse.

    Stop it - stop replying, go post art.

    If not for the fact this is Xopher's thread it would have been closed by now. You're spamming with arguments and if you're here to work on art, work on art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    The more you reply, the more I want to close this thread. You still haven't posted art, but spend more time countering replies when the same things have been stated since you have decided to use this forum. You've been here for years, then it is no longer an excuse.

    Stop it - stop replying, go post art.

    If not for the fact this is Xopher's thread it would have been closed by now. You're spamming with arguments and if you're here to work on art, work on art.
    I got no Issues if you decide it gets out of hand.

    EDIT: was a thread meant to help people not offend each member who decides I am preaching over my head or an argument about what is the right/wrong questions.

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    You know what rude really is? Not being honest and straight up with someone. You have to have a sense of where someone is at in their development and try to get a feel for where they may not be seeing the path better...if they need to work on basic drawing skills they need to hear "draw more". Some will...most won't...but page after page, thread after thread won't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xopher View Post
    I got no Issues if you decide it gets out of hand.

    EDIT: was a thread meant to help people not offend each member who decides I am preaching over my head or an argument about what is the right/wrong questions.
    Yeah Xopher. Sorry about the mess. Considering
    shearing off all the other posts if you and the staff want me to.

    Then again...some people did need to get a certain message.
    Your thread did help bring that message across...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    Yeah Xopher. Sorry about the mess. Considering
    shearing off all the other posts if you and the staff want me to.

    Then again...some people did need to get a certain message.
    Your thread did help bring that message across...
    True, I guess people get to see all perspectives on these sort of things, basically what a forum is about.

    I have never started so many arguments before except when I told rich kids parents their kids would grow up and do a fine arts degree (just for fun) instead of becoming lawyers, Guess I should get back to some sketching and get a sketchbook up, I was considering throwing some paint at the wall Jackson pollock style or drawing some abstract prostitutes just to start some more arguments about what is art nah Im enough trouble

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