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    advice

    I'll try asking here. I'm in desperate need of advice. I was considering PNCA in Portland for schooling, but I've read more bad reviews than good. I think most were from drop out students, but does anyone know about the school or could anyone give me any advice?

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    School for what exactly we're not mind readers

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    I assume is this dpaint: http://www.pnca.edu/

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    Yes, that. And sorry if I'm not clear... I'm overly stressed about trying to make the right choices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashback View Post
    I assume is this dpaint: http://www.pnca.edu/
    I know of the school; what does the person want to go to school for? We're still not mind readers.
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    I think dpaint means what do you want to study. There are so many possible directions in the visual arts now.

    oops beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    I think dpaint means what do you want to study. There are so many possible directions in the visual arts now.

    oops beat me to it.
    I take what I said back Bill is a mind reader but I'm not

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    I'd like to go for Illustration. Eventually I'd like to do concept art, but Illustration seems like the best major for that.

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    Well, looking at the tumblr link in the illustration dept. It doesn't seem like they are training students to render realistically to the degree you would need to work as an illustrator /concept artist. But You could look at the site and come to your own conclusion. I mean flip through any "art of..." book and compare it to the style of art they are teaching there. If you want illustration go to a place that is known for turning out top-notch illustrators.

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    agreed. i just want to stay up north for school because i don't do well in heat. Another quick question, sorry if it's dumb, but would illustration be the best major for concept art, or does it all depend on an artist's skill and ability to get an idea across. I guess what i'm asking is, do you really need a specific major for concept art?

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    You don't like heat? What, LA is equatorial Africa? Unless you have some life threatening disease that prevents you from being in the sun you need to focus. You aren't very serious and won't get far if your first concern is anything other than becoming the best artist you can be.

    What you want for concept art is the ability to render ideas quickly to a high degree of finish. That requires a strong grounding in basic constructive drawing and painting skills; anatomy, perspective, color, form, atmosphere, drama and mood.

    Don't focus on the degree because it doesn't matter, what matters is the portfolio and skill you have. School can help you accomplish that if you get the right school and you work hard but a degree isn't necessary for your success.

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    Along with the student work, the other important thing to check out is this: http://www.pnca.edu/faculty/illustration
    How does the faculty's work look to you?
    Is there anybody there you would specifically like to study with?

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    I will tell you the same thing that I tell prospective students where I teach. Some of these schools will give you a decent start in learning to draw and paint but only if you put in your own work outside the classroom. If you want to study concept art you can get a start at places like PNCA , if you are willing to put up with some other art fluff, but eventually you will need to go to a place where concept art is more of a focus (this is if you are interested in school. School fits the personality of some but not all). They touch on it a little at PNCA but any school does if they want to stay alive.

    There is always give and take. The best schools cost the most money. I've had a few students start off locally and then bite the bullet to finish education at an expensive art school. The thing is so many of you guys are not 100% sure what you want to do or where you want to go. A decent school can help with that if you are confused. I know the reputation of one faculty there, Martin French. He is a friend of a friend and is a really good illustrator in the editorial and advertising world. He is chair of the illustration area so it might benefit you to set up an appointment and talk to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    You don't like heat? What, LA is equatorial Africa?
    The last two weeks? Yes. We're melting out here. MELTING.

    Oh. And second! To everything else dpaint said

    EDIT: Also, OP...this isn't in SoCal, but have you looked at San Jose State? I hear good things about their program. (You still have to do your own research though.)

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    San Jose State and Bunny Carter, yes good.

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