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    Quote Originally Posted by B.K. Conn View Post
    Our hypothesis is that designers would like to spread their art and also have their friends and customers 'rate' their artwork so they can know which design works and which ones don't in the marketplace.
    What you're not understanding is this site, or format, just doesn't do that. A "vs." competition with a photo going up against an illustration for example doesn't tell you anything. At best this might evolve into some kind of amateur DA hangout but I can't imagine it being a professional venue.

    Just mho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    a photo going up against an illustration for example doesn't tell you anything. At best this might evolve into some kind of amateur DA hangout but I can't imagine it being a professional venue.

    Just mho.
    I feel the same way. This is why we added categories to prevent photos pairing up with illustration, or say Graphic Design. That doesn't happen on the site, you should never see a photo with illustration unless a user purposely puts the wrong category on an image. In which case user's will report the abuse of categories.

    I'm an artist myself, graphic designer, web designer, and illustrator. I was frustrated on how the freelance scene worked, so I'm asking you'alls help to mend the system, or at least grease the wheels. We feel exactly how you do, if not by using a 'vs. comparison', how would you the user(you) feel is a best version of this designer network?

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    I admire your perseverance, just wish it would go into something more productive. This project is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    I admire your perseverance, just wish it would go into something more productive. This project is not.
    I must ask. We want to help freelancers and designers who work for commissions. WHAT IS a more productive product we can build for you guys?

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    I appreciate you asking and being open about it, as well as not becoming defensive, especially considering the amount of work that has gone into the site.

    Ideas that come to mind:
    If it is to be a professional level tool for marketing I would do away with ANY gimicky stuff like the "vs." ratings.
    Small portfolio pages that may allow reviews, testimonials and comments possibly.
    A way for the designer/illustrator/artist to easily share their resume, contact info.

    Plenty of social or sharing sites exist that have the right tools but they aren't focused on design and illustration of course (and actually plenty are, they just aren't professional enough). Things like Flickr or even DA are close in format. I would think a streamlined Flickr crossed with something like Carbon Made(?) or Coppermine(?) would have potential. You may want to expand your research into architecture and interior design network/marketing sites for ideas as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    I appreciate you asking and being open about it, as well as not becoming defensive, especially considering the amount of work that has gone into the site.

    Ideas that come to mind:
    If it is to be a professional level tool for marketing I would do away with ANY gimicky stuff like the "vs." ratings.
    Yes, the most important thing is not what we think but what you all want and need.

    Would up/down votes, similar to a reddit integrated into our current format be better than a 'vs. comparison'?

    We would like to go above & beyond just being a portfolio site for you. Which as you say, begins with streamlining a product like a carbonmade/flickr mixture for designers.

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    No professional is going to post their work to be voted on. If they're a pro they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If the pros don't sign up only the worst of the wannabes will.

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    Honestly? Voting system isn't going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorinji_Knight View Post
    No professional is going to post their work to be voted on. If they're a pro they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If the pros don't sign up only the worst of the wannabes will.
    " everything to lose. " That's very true. What is missing today in sharing your work and connecting to jobs (social networking)?

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    Would it be more preferable to have people browsing your art/design to have the option to collect it, and share it on their collecting profiles? & the most collected designers would appear in Top Rated/ popular.

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    Be bold and register? lol.
    Sorry, but no.

    I'm the user, you are the website. You need to make it enticing for ME and give ME a reason to look at your site. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to offer you some constructive criticism. Many people operate this way and by pointing it out, I've done all I can. Now you know.

    You can feel free to ignore it or you can make it more accessible to the passerby so you actually get people using your site. With millions of websites in the world, people need to have a REASON to go to your site.
    And giving them a browse-able version that doesn't require a login is fairly basic for this type of site.

    As I mentioned before, this seems like a "Hot or Not" of art.
    The website, Hot or Not, did not require any form on login. Anyone could go to it, vote immediately, and then leave if they wanted. That created a fairly viral scenario where people would tell their friends to look at it. The easier something is to use, the more people will use it (if it interests them). Of course, it's worth noting "Hot or Not" was popular about 12 years ago.....so I have no idea if such a site would be popular today.

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    to me c g h u b . c o m (god its redicilous this gets filtered!) is a close to perfect example of an artist social network. you might want to take a look if you havent already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    Sorry, but no.

    I'm the user, you are the website. You need to make it enticing for ME and give ME a reason to look at your site. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to offer you some constructive criticism. Many people operate this way and by pointing it out, I've done all I can. Now you know.

    You can feel free to ignore it or you can make it more accessible to the passerby so you actually get people using your site. With millions of websites in the world, people need to have a REASON to go to your site.
    And giving them a browse-able version that doesn't require a login is fairly basic for this type of site.
    This is good advice, thank you. & we won't ignore it. We will open it up to free browse.

    We are wondering if you the user would use a site that is similar to this pair comparison, but allows only employers to go through the art in pairs and it suggests the top picks of their preferences for them to place in the job? You would receive the private info of which pieces the employers were and were not picking without anyone else seeing the results.

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