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    I admire your perseverance, just wish it would go into something more productive. This project is not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    I admire your perseverance, just wish it would go into something more productive. This project is not.
    I must ask. We want to help freelancers and designers who work for commissions. WHAT IS a more productive product we can build for you guys?

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    I appreciate you asking and being open about it, as well as not becoming defensive, especially considering the amount of work that has gone into the site.

    Ideas that come to mind:
    If it is to be a professional level tool for marketing I would do away with ANY gimicky stuff like the "vs." ratings.
    Small portfolio pages that may allow reviews, testimonials and comments possibly.
    A way for the designer/illustrator/artist to easily share their resume, contact info.

    Plenty of social or sharing sites exist that have the right tools but they aren't focused on design and illustration of course (and actually plenty are, they just aren't professional enough). Things like Flickr or even DA are close in format. I would think a streamlined Flickr crossed with something like Carbon Made(?) or Coppermine(?) would have potential. You may want to expand your research into architecture and interior design network/marketing sites for ideas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    I appreciate you asking and being open about it, as well as not becoming defensive, especially considering the amount of work that has gone into the site.

    Ideas that come to mind:
    If it is to be a professional level tool for marketing I would do away with ANY gimicky stuff like the "vs." ratings.
    Yes, the most important thing is not what we think but what you all want and need.

    Would up/down votes, similar to a reddit integrated into our current format be better than a 'vs. comparison'?

    We would like to go above & beyond just being a portfolio site for you. Which as you say, begins with streamlining a product like a carbonmade/flickr mixture for designers.

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    No professional is going to post their work to be voted on. If they're a pro they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If the pros don't sign up only the worst of the wannabes will.


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    Honestly? Voting system isn't going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorinji_Knight View Post
    No professional is going to post their work to be voted on. If they're a pro they have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If the pros don't sign up only the worst of the wannabes will.
    " everything to lose. " That's very true. What is missing today in sharing your work and connecting to jobs (social networking)?

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    Would it be more preferable to have people browsing your art/design to have the option to collect it, and share it on their collecting profiles? & the most collected designers would appear in Top Rated/ popular.

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    Be bold and register? lol.
    Sorry, but no.

    I'm the user, you are the website. You need to make it enticing for ME and give ME a reason to look at your site. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to offer you some constructive criticism. Many people operate this way and by pointing it out, I've done all I can. Now you know.

    You can feel free to ignore it or you can make it more accessible to the passerby so you actually get people using your site. With millions of websites in the world, people need to have a REASON to go to your site.
    And giving them a browse-able version that doesn't require a login is fairly basic for this type of site.

    As I mentioned before, this seems like a "Hot or Not" of art.
    The website, Hot or Not, did not require any form on login. Anyone could go to it, vote immediately, and then leave if they wanted. That created a fairly viral scenario where people would tell their friends to look at it. The easier something is to use, the more people will use it (if it interests them). Of course, it's worth noting "Hot or Not" was popular about 12 years ago.....so I have no idea if such a site would be popular today.

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    to me c g h u b . c o m (god its redicilous this gets filtered!) is a close to perfect example of an artist social network. you might want to take a look if you havent already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    Sorry, but no.

    I'm the user, you are the website. You need to make it enticing for ME and give ME a reason to look at your site. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm trying to offer you some constructive criticism. Many people operate this way and by pointing it out, I've done all I can. Now you know.

    You can feel free to ignore it or you can make it more accessible to the passerby so you actually get people using your site. With millions of websites in the world, people need to have a REASON to go to your site.
    And giving them a browse-able version that doesn't require a login is fairly basic for this type of site.
    This is good advice, thank you. & we won't ignore it. We will open it up to free browse.

    We are wondering if you the user would use a site that is similar to this pair comparison, but allows only employers to go through the art in pairs and it suggests the top picks of their preferences for them to place in the job? You would receive the private info of which pieces the employers were and were not picking without anyone else seeing the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.K. Conn View Post
    We are wondering if you the user would use a site that is similar to this pair comparison, but allows only employers to go through the art in pairs.
    And by "employers" do you mean people who go "hay could you plz draw me a tattoo/logo/graphic novel 4 free plz?" or how do you actually choose who are employers and based on what? (I mean technically anyone can be a potential employer if you count people who want private work) Not to mention I'd think most (corporate/studio/etc) employers have an idea of what they are looking and are not likely to spend time voting pairs, but rather look at a person's full gallery and see if the artist draws what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sone_one View Post
    to me c g h u b . c o m (god its redicilous this gets filtered!) is a close to perfect example of an artist social network. you might want to take a look if you havent already.
    I agree. That is really petty.
    Come on, guys.

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    "Guys" FYI the rest of the staff have nothing to do with it, bringing up what is censored on the site means you need to take it up with the person in charge. Bringing it up on random threads is not changing the outcome and is frustrating the other admins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    And by "employers" do you mean people who go "hay could you plz draw me a tattoo/logo/graphic novel 4 free plz?" or how do you actually choose who are employers and based on what? (I mean technically anyone can be a potential employer if you count people who want private work) Not to mention I'd think most (corporate/studio/etc) employers have an idea of what they are looking and are not likely to spend time voting pairs, but rather look at a person's full gallery and see if the artist draws what they want.
    If they had to pay to post a job posting to go through pairs that should limit the amount of "Hey I need a graphic novel/game/comic artist free now!" users using that part of the system. This would promote more professional jobs rather than that mentioned above, "free art/collaborations/lowpay". More firms and serious employers would opt in rather than "free art/collaborations/lowpay".

    **notice membership is free, only people posting a job and using the pairs would pay to use.

    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    Not to mention I'd think most (corporate/studio/etc) employers have an idea of what they are looking and are not likely to spend time voting pairs, but rather look at a person's full gallery and see if the artist draws what they want.
    Well that's very true I think. If we build it correctly they would still be able to browse the artists pieces, just the same. The quick pairing system at the beginning of their search would narrow "the look" they are wanting to achieve(BUY) before they are given suggested profiles to browse. And at any time they can go back out of the suggestions and try again, or opt not to go for suggestions. It's kind of a way of taking the sea of artists and giving them a narrowing method via pairs to find their way to your profile, to hire you.
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