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August 1st, 2012 #1
Breaking Gender Roles
Am not sure if posting this here would be appropriate but i think a few of you may enjoy partaking in this.
It's a competition to design a superheroine with non-stereotypical design...
but i'm more interested to discuss what people feel is more appropriate, noting the actual motivation for this contest. Do SuperHeroins need to actually be more female-adonis type beings or should there be more lee-way in their shape.
i am fully aware that this is obviously sexist, it's wrong to declare that comic readers only designate a single look as attractive and acceptable, it's offensive to both genders for the pressure and the assumption. But i'd like to know if people believe that the legacy of comics is more important than a development like this.
August 1st, 2012 #2
If the legacy of comics depends on sexist, manchild-fantasy depictions of women, it's a pretty poor legacy. They are about more than that and they can be better.
This contest rules.
August 1st, 2012 #3
I KNOW RIGHT!? xDDD
well yeah, and at the same time comics are making great strides, there being gay characters popping up all over these days...
but the female archetyping needs to be countered... badly.
at least X-Men usually make a large range of character types. also at least internal struggle and understanding is harnessed greatly throughout modern comics, representing good logic in characters (see RUNAWAYS)
August 1st, 2012 #4
I've been planning for a little while now to do a Female Frazetta Death-dealer. Haven't gotten around to it yet though.
August 1st, 2012 #5
I think whole superhero/superheroine concept leads to such sterotypes. I grew up reading european comics and never really experienced lack of variety in female characters. Mainly beacause there are many different stories and not neccessarily about idealised modern day warriors fighting with organised crime or some other evil force.
Also I don't understand why the main chosen approach for breaking stereotype is that you need to go for completely opposite of slim character. Superhero usually needs to be pretty fit in order to face dangers and enemies so being fat is not the first option. I would be into more subtle differences in look (or just leave the superhero stories altogether and focus on telling story about normal people experiencing unusual situation).
August 1st, 2012 #6
August 1st, 2012 #7
I would just be happy if they made it look like their female superheroes had spines, and internal organs...
Honestly though, strong people don't necessarily have to be slim. Look at Holley Mangold, for example! I wouldn't want to rumble with her, and I think a female hero with her physique would be awesome and definitely something different.
Let artists reference their poses from Olympic athletes, not porn stars.
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August 1st, 2012 #8
August 1st, 2012 #9Originally Posted by Maidith
By fat I mostly mean the amount of fat vs amount of muscle. There are people with different size of body frame and all can be athletic.
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August 1st, 2012 #10
But that's the thing across all media, isn't it. You can't be a heroine unless you're fairly conventionally attractive. We can't have ugly people on the teevee except on government-subsidized channels.
Edit: But you know what? Fuck mainstream superhero comics, they're practically irrelevant except as excuses for Time Warner to go make a movie. There's an indie comic for whatever floats your boat. If you want to read comics with plump ladies try Strangers in Paradise or Love and Rockets.
August 1st, 2012 #11
I've read more carefully the contest description and at first glance that Batwoman piece seemed typical attractive female comic character. To my surprise it was described as fat and not fitting the industry standard... well. Not really much to talk about. This is one of the many reasons why I don't read superhero comic. Luckily I got many alternatives.
August 1st, 2012 #12
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August 1st, 2012 #13