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    She was at SDCC and the tumblr mentions that she isn't the best artist...it was http://manboobmaiden.tumblr.com/post...-book-industry

    http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/post/2...drawn-based-on

    She mentions it was the piece she got the most flack for, so obviously she has other pieces she submitted.

    “Her breasts are much too small and do not have the lift that superhero women should have. Her jawline is fat and her neck much too long. The style of her hair is clunky and does not flow in a sense that a super human would. Her hips, waist and thighs are too big and she honestly looks fat. No one is going to want to read a comic with a fat female protagonist. I honestly recommend looking at issues of Sport’s Illustrated to get the right anatomy. Those women are the peak of human perfection, and that is what we want in this industry.”
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    Beautiful. The older I got the more gorgeous this physique became to me.
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    Yeah, because people who look like this and don't compete professionally are so attractive with their heart disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, arthritis and sleep apnea, all before their 40. Since over one third of America is obese lets make all the media reflect that, so fat, unhealthy people can feel good about being that way. Its so American.
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    I like fat chicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Yeah, because people who look like this and don't compete professionally are so attractive with their heart disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, arthritis and sleep apnea all before their 40. Since over one third of America is obese lets make all the media reflect that, so fat, unhealthy people can feel good about being that way. Its so American.
    Er...dpaint, which post are you responding to? If it's the water polo player there are gonna be WORDS...

    Anyway, in general:

    Being obese is a problem; but so is the shaming and bulling that goes on. Representing a woman who is a size 6 as a "plus sized" model is frankly ridiculous. The average model is 5'11; at that height the recommended range is 135-156. The average weight of the models? 117.

    117.

    (I'd also like to see women's jeans sold in waist/length measurement like men's jeans, rather than numbers - but that's an entirely different argument.)

    While I don't want to advocate for bad habits, I don't think that means we as consumers can't push for diversity - in race, gender, and body-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keeptime View Post
    Batwoman doesn't seem consistent with her style. Am I wrong to think there might have been some heavy referencing going on? I feel like something's missing from this story. It doesn't seem right that she would present this and the first thing out of a professional's mouth was "She's fat, go away until you're drawing exactly like the rest of us".
    You know what bugs me?

    It looks like she's not wearing a bra.

    WHY WOULDN'T SHE BE WEARING A BRA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Yeah, because people who look like this and don't compete professionally are so attractive with their heart disease, type 2 diabetes, cancer, arthritis and sleep apnea all before their 40. Since over one third of America is obese lets make all the media reflect that, so fat, unhealthy people can feel good about being that way. Its so American.
    Says the fat man with cheetoh colored fingers
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    I (generally) like eschergirls, and the underlying issues it raises are legitimate and important. However, that post with the Batwoman pic really raised my hackles, since the drawing has a TON of problems, many of which are legitimately, if not diplomatically, addressed in her report of the crit she got. I know it's impossible, but I'd really like to know exactly what that editor said, and how accurate her telling of it is. He may well have been as big a jerk as he comes off as, but, on the other hand, she may have heard more than what was actually said. As someone who makes part of their living from critiquing student work, I know how common that is. Sexism, objectification, and body image are real issues in comics and fan culture, but they're not excuses for bad drawing.

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    I would just like to mention there are a lot of different kinds of "fat". What appears to be just fat at first glance does not mean that it doesn't come with muscle, or that the person is unhealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    I like fat chicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigonWulf View Post
    Blam! Proof you can be pretty and an ass kicker.
    No one said that beautiful women couldn't exist with a build. People are saying not all of them need to look like lingerie models and diversity would be appreciated
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    For a non stereotypical vision of women (in the pin-up world at least) I suggest looking at the work of Les Toil.

    Les's work is humorous and inclusive!

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