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    Any artists turned film maker?

    I'm just curious Because it would make more sense than actors making movies. The only two I know of are Ridley Scott and Frank Miller but I'm sure there has got to be more.

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    Julian Shnabel directed Basquiat and the Diving Bell and the Butterfly, among others.
    Robert Longo directed Johnny Mnemonic and several music videos.
    Matt Mahurin directed a ton of music videos in the '90s, and has made several full-length and short films.
    Matthew Barney is a contemporary artist who works in film as one of his mediums, notably the Cremaster Cycle.
    Arne Glimcher is an art dealer, not an artist, but he also directed the Mambo Kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    it would make more sense than actors making movies.
    No, not really.

    Far more actors have become directors/producers/writers than established artists.

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    Elwell-Wow not what I was expecting. Very good artists. But not so much with the concept/storyboard artists.

    Hunter Killer-I think you misunderstood me. I was just wondering why more artist don't wind up directors, sense it is visual storytelling. Actors don't seem to have a problem making the jump. I'm guessing actors can pay for films they want to make and have star power to draw a crowd.

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    Kubrick was a photographer.
    John Lasseter was an animator.

    Those Cremaster Cycle movies are amazing.

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    Zack Snyder and Michael Bay studied at the Art Centre in Pasadena. I'm not sure though if they were in the same year or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorax View Post
    Zack Snyder and Michael Bay studied at the Art Centre in Pasadena. I'm not sure though if they were in the same year or not.
    Art Center, like many art schools, has a film department.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MephistoLV View Post
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    Actually Walt Disney wasn't an artist. He was a writer, producer and director. People tend to give Walt Disney Credit for Ub Iwerks' stuff.

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    Hayao Miyazaki.

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    Did Miyazaki do any live action movies?
    Not to undermine animation. Some of my favorite movies and shows are animated. But that doesn't count. Most animated films are made by artists.

    I completely forgot Dave Mckean. He directed Mirror Mask.

    Oh Jeezus I forgot about Terry Gilliam Too.

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    Duh. I forgot James Cameron too. He does the initial concept art. He's obviously not in the business of painting anything to hang on the wall. But that doesn't matter. I'm sure his scripts wouldn't cut it as novels either. The combination of both skills plus hundreds of millions of dollars have never failed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Hunter Killer-I think you misunderstood me. I was just wondering why more artist don't wind up directors, sense it is visual storytelling.
    Ok. Well, if you're talking about storyboard, comic/graphic novel artists, sure.
    I don't think really applies to any other categories, though. Illustration, concept and everything else is pretty far removed from making a film.

    I have to say that your dismissal of Miyazaki is pretty condescending, considering he's one of the greatest film makers of our time and will go down in history as one of the greatest.
    And he definitely was an artist before he became a film maker, having started off in Manga.

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    Once again you misunderstood my statement. I probably just phrased it like a dick. Miyazaki is a great storyteller. Perhaps one of the greatest. Animation gets a bad wrap. Animators like Bruce Timm, Satoshi Kon and Shinishiro Watanabe to name a few deserve far more recognition than they get.

    With that said I'm curious about live action movies. I'd think an illustrator could work his way up to film maker. Some artist go through allot of trouble to shoot ref. Like finding the right costume, lighting equipment, props, locations and models. So you'd think the two professions would be more connected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    With that said I'm curious about live action movies. I'd think an illustrator could work his way up to film maker. Some artist go through allot of trouble to shoot ref. Like finding the right costume, lighting equipment, props, locations and models. So you'd think the two professions would be more connected.
    Sure, they're connected... but that's like saying that any good musician should be able to conduct an orchestra.

    I don't want to sound condescending or offensive, but perhaps you're underestimating or neglecting all the other factors encompassing the creation of a film other than having a mind for visualizing a convincing story in motion (which is an impressive and rare skill itself).

    You said some artists go out of their way to shoot ref, costume, lighting, locations and models - these are but a small fraction of the decisions being made in the making of a film.

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    It is a big ass leap from one to another, but I think "vision" is the important ingredient. I get that it's more difficult to control a cast and crew than paint strokes. The simple fact remains there are so many amazing illustrators that I'd love to see their artwork in live action. And there are great film makers with a tremendous sense for imagery, that some shots could be framed.

    I just remembered Clive Barker. I'm not a huge fan of his, but his demons and shit are very memorable and legitimately creepy.
    http://www.clivebarker.com/html/visi...lery/index.htm

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    This movie was made by artists.
    Its got Kyle MacLaughlen in it and the hot police woman from Babylon5, and its a bit like Terminator but instead of Terminator doing Sarah Conners nut its about this sweet looking bodyswapping alien thing that jumps bodies and goes around stealing Ferraris and guns and metal tapes and going on the rampage round LA. Its exactly like GTA San Andreas crossed with a genuinely scary body horror science fiction story. Or a dark gritty take on men in black.
    Considering it should be schlock the characters all act like humans and the monster is a fucking evil asshole. Its an underated action classic, and gets surprisingly deep between the cool GTA action!

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    Big one that comes to mind for me is Neill Blomkamp
    He was originally an animator who swiftly stuck to directing very early on.

    Overall resulting in District 9

    And he was going to be making Halo ><

    Also i know that Guillermo Del Toro (shame on you for not knowing him but anyway, made Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy I&II) is not alien to the pencil, but i don't think he's very learned in the area but i think it counts for what he presents.


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    Thanks, that's cool. I didn't realizes that about Guillermo Del Toro. He sketches in his production journals. They might just be doodles, but they are in good taste.


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    yeah, i found out from his production journals... he always has them on the directors cuts for his films...

    as i said, they don't seem to be made with particularly trained skill... but he has the mind of an artist ... and this DEFINITELY shows


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    EDIT: I see you mentioned Cameron..

    It's his hands that are drawing the Winslet nude
    sketch in Titanic.

    I saw his work in 'The Winston Effect' book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    It is a big ass leap from one to another, but I think "vision" is the important ingredient. I get that it's more difficult to control a cast and crew than paint strokes. The simple fact remains there are so many amazing illustrators that I'd love to see their artwork in live action. And there are great film makers with a tremendous sense for imagery, that some shots could be framed.

    I just remembered Clive Barker. I'm not a huge fan of his, but his demons and shit are very memorable and legitimately creepy.
    http://www.clivebarker.com/html/visi...lery/index.htm
    Illustrators generally don't have the skill-set necessary to be film-makers without additional study. Understanding how to make a successful image is great, but film requires the ability to connect a series of images over time to tell a story. Film basically adds an additional dimension of complexity because of the 'over time' component, and there's usually a reason why people who want to make films study filmmaking.

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