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    Dunno if I feel good or bad about this, since his drawings were entertaining even if for the wrong reasons.

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    I wonder if he will continue in other comics and if he does, what sort of comics exactly. Imagine a "real life" love-story comic written and drawn by Liefeld....

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    He's leaving DC, there's nothing in that article to suggest he's giving up superhero books. What the hell else is he going to do, gag cartoons? Religious tracts?

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    I still like Liefields Juggernaut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    I still like Liefields Juggernaut.
    Then you should enjoy this
    http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012...efeld-drawings
    and this
    http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012...efeld-drawings

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    Oh I know those links quite well. Juggy is actually in there.

    Liefield got lapped up in the 90s and despite his affirmation that he
    was inspired by the Mortal Kombat 'extreme' era of the time, he has
    done little to change.

    But I still dig his Juggernaut depiction.

    The only word that comes to mind when I think of Liefield is "pouch"
    Or make that "pouches."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    Liefield got lapped up in the 90s and despite his affirmation that he was inspired by the Mortal Kombat 'extreme' era of the time, he has done little to change.
    Mortal Kombat 'extreme'? Huh?

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    "A fun Liefeld drinking game: take a shot for every pouch he draws on a character. Oh great, now you have alcohol poisoning."

    My spleen ruptured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotime View Post
    Mortal Kombat 'extreme'? Huh?
    I should have typed Mortal Kombat/extreme. The 'Mortal Kombat' reference were his own words.

    In the late mid to late 90s everything had to suddenly become 'extreme'
    old favourite established icons and trademarks were being reinvented as
    "EXTREME" like GI Joes, EXTREME a short lived shit cartoon with equally
    shit action figures. (see also EXTREME ghostbusters, ninja turtles EXTREME, etc)
    Even in wrestling this was known as the 'attitude' era.

    Basically it meant BIG guns BIG tits, ripped clothes, bomber jackets, lanyards,
    webbing, pouches, pouches, pouches, swords...kind of like the stuff you see in Robs
    artwork. Suddenly costumes started getting machine parts, goggles, heroes
    got pony tails, shoulder pads, big boots...etc.

    It was more evident as you watched in evolve from the 80s to the 90s and
    then become horribly dated by the new millennium. (though it still lingers.)
    It was all about urban culture, sticking it to da man and pseudo hardcore but
    without acknowledging any of the similar trends set before it. The results
    made a lot of it age real badly.

    Spacemoose sums it up real well he got the mohawk for this strip only:



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    I love his infamous Captain American picture...but the edit someone did is even better ....
    (possibly NSFW)
    http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...inAmerieca.jpg

    The nubbin kills me every time.
    In all seriousness, I will never say that I "like" Rob Liefeld. His art stinks..it really does. BUT, I absolutely bought Youngblood #1 on the first day it came out and I desperately wanted a New Mutants #87. I was 13 years old and that's the kinda shit 13 year olds liked at the time.

    It's easy to make fun of it now, but if you are in your early 30s, I would wager you dug his work back then. Kids loved the tiny little hatched details and didn't care what his muscles looked like.

    And even though he sucks, you can't deny he has a style that is 100% his....unlike many artists these days. When you see his shit, you know it's his shit and he owns it. Good for him.

    Fuck his stupid little fists...but good for him just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    I love his infamous Captain American picture...but the edit someone did is even better ....
    (possibly NSFW)
    http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...inAmerieca.jpg

    The nubbin kills me every time.
    In all seriousness, I will never say that I "like" Rob Liefeld. His art stinks..it really does. BUT, I absolutely bought Youngblood #1 on the first day it came out and I desperately wanted a New Mutants #87. I was 13 years old and that's the kinda shit 13 year olds liked at the time.

    It's easy to make fun of it now, but if you are in your early 30s, I would wager you dug his work back then. Kids loved the tiny little hatched details and didn't care what his muscles looked like.

    And even though he sucks, you can't deny he has a style that is 100% his....unlike many artists these days. When you see his shit, you know it's his shit and he owns it. Good for him.

    Fuck his stupid little fists...but good for him just the same.
    Yeah, I'm with you on this Dusty.

    But, having said that, given that Youngblood 1 a gander lately? I had
    a couple of the first issues which I paged through, wow.

    I also have a little booklet released by Image themselves about how
    awesome they are and interviews with each of the artists. It's just
    my opinion, but I think Mcfarlane had a lot to do with screwing up
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    What would America be like without Rob Liefeld and his unusual interpretation of human anatomy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    And even though he sucks, you can't deny he has a style that is 100% his...
    Not really. Rob Liefeld = (Art Adams x Walt Simonson)-100 IQ points

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    Well, sure. But every artist is an amalgamation of their influences.

    I still don't see Art Adams' art and go "Woah, this was totally the precursor to Liefeld!". I see a LOT of artists from the 90's who were clearly ripping off Liefeld's style, though. Just like I see a lot of artists today doing the "photo real porn face"...because that's what sells.

    Again, not saying I like it. But someone's gotta be the poster boy for any given trend and he earned that title. I disagree that there was anyone before him that looked anything like him, so that's why I think he deserves style credit...for better or worse.

    But, having said that, given that Youngblood 1 a gander lately? I had
    a couple of the first issues which I paged through, wow.
    Oh of course. It's awful. I'm 33 years old, I wouldn't buy that crap today.

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    I'm surprised people still care. It's a pretty dead horse imo. I don't think his new DC work made much of any kind of impact, either negatively or positively, and it hasn't for many years now. The novelty has worn off.



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    He's leaving DC, there's nothing in that article to suggest he's giving up superhero books. What the hell else is he going to do Religious tracts?
    I think he wrote it, but did he also draw it? Looks more like it was done by someone like Roger Cruz. Hard to say since there are so many artists from that area that have that faux-pas Image-y style, but it doesn't look very Liefeld-y.

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    I think he was just writer for that one, but I could be wrong.

    EDIT: Yep. He just wrote it, Ed Benes drew the interior.

    EDIT2: Nope, Rob didn't even write it. He's credited for the STORY, but the script is by Robert Napton.

    But that doesn't mean Rob didn't draw the cover.



    You know the funny part? There was an alternate edition with a special cover.



    Yep!

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    If he's working in comics, then he will be doing superheros. Wack ass creator owned superheros are still superheros. He doesn't have the ability to switch genres. He simply lacks the storytelling ability. It would be like a professional wrestler becoming a muy thai kick boxer. He is the best at flashy gimmicks since Stan Lee. So I think he's gonna stick with that. I'm sure he gets half a penny whenever Deadpool or Cable make a dollar.

    I always hoped that Leifeld would release an unaware self parody where he just lets a critic rewrite his dialogue bubbles after he creates his delusional idea of a masterpiece. I'd buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    I still don't see Art Adams' art and go "Woah, this was totally the precursor to Liefeld!".
    Check out the original Hawk and Dove miniseries or his early New Mutants work, the Art Adams influence is overwhelming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallPoly View Post
    What would America be like without Rob Liefeld and his unusual interpretation of human anatomy?
    It's possible!

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    Time for cosplay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgardSerpent View Post
    I'm surprised people still care. It's a pretty dead horse imo. I don't think his new DC work made much of any kind of impact, either negatively or positively, and it hasn't for many years now. The novelty has worn off.




    I think he wrote it, but did he also draw it? Looks more like it was done by someone like Roger Cruz. Hard to say since there are so many artists from that area that have that faux-pas Image-y style, but it doesn't look very Liefeld-y.
    I'd hazard Marat Mychaels.

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    Lol its too easy to make fun of Rob. But to be honest, he draws way better than I do. D:

    I wonder what goes through his mind though. Does he just not pay any attention to what he is doing? There are some drawing mistakes that I just can't see how he or the inker or the colorist OR the fucking editor doesnt go like "Dude, what are you on? This dude has 3 arms and 40 pouches"

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    I hold the theory that Liefield is actually an disguised alien from an invertebrate race, which would explain why all of women have broken backs or just no backs at all.
    Also, every single being in his race wears gloves and a constantly angry demeanor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Check out the original Hawk and Dove miniseries or his early New Mutants work, the Art Adams influence is overwhelming.
    Ha...I actually almost edited my post to mention the early Hawk and Dove stuff, but figured it clogged it up.

    I see your point there, of course. My point is that early Liefeld is not much like late Liefeld at all. By the time he came into his own with X-force, he was pretty far removed from that early style.

    Sadly, it also meant he some how got worse (and has continued to get worse since then). Still, the style that made him "famous" is pretty damn iconic even if it is totally butt-fucking ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    Sadly, it also meant he some how got worse (and has continued to get worse since then). Still, the style that made him "famous" is pretty damn iconic even if it is totally butt-fucking ludicrous.
    Yeah I think the digital tools really hurt him. It's odd how he actually got worse and not better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    It would be like a professional wrestler becoming a muy thai kick boxer.
    Brock Lesnar did become the Heavyweight Champion in the UFC a few years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OmenSpirits View Post
    I'd hazard Marat Mychaels.
    Never heard of that name, but according to Psychotime it's Ed Benes, which sounds about right to me.


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    Brock Lesnar did become the Heavyweight Champion in the UFC a few years ago.

    And later on was completely destroyed by K-1 striker and fellow Dutchman Alistair Overeem by....... knees and kicks.

    Reason Lesnar had some moderate success is because wrestling translates well to mma, and well, he's a 265 pound gorilla and pretty athletic for a guy that size.

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