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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
    Hey you know what? Good for him.

    I bet he didn't sit around all day and whine on message boards about how much he sucked, too.
    Why would he do that? He went pretty much said how much writers sucked for not making him look good or took his credit and being money grubby for doing so according to Peter David.

    Rob replied that he was “a stickler for credit,” believing that credit should be given “where it’s due.” Based on that, he claimed sole creative credit for the character and insulted Louise Simonson while he was at it.


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    "I bet he didn't sit around all day and whine on message boards about how much he sucked, too."

    http://robliefeldcreations.com/?p=2906

    "I started by jumping on message boards and interacting with all varieties of threads, even those that were famous for bashing me. "

    Feel a bit sorry for the guy if im honest, loads of comic dicks doing his nut all the time.
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    I think that most of the hate towards Rob should be directed at the publishers that hire him. While artists were getting rejection letters (including myself) with advice like "study anatomy" and so forth, that very same publisher would hire Rob and get...well...Rob's art. I don't think he's that good but he's successful at something that he genuinely enjoys. He deserved the bashing for the swiping though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgardSerpent View Post
    I think he wrote it, but did he also draw it? Looks more like it was done by someone like Roger Cruz. Hard to say since there are so many artists from that area that have that faux-pas Image-y style, but it doesn't look very Liefeld-y.
    To be fair, no, he didn't draw that, although he was the auteur of the project. He did draw these, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    To be fair, no, he didn't draw that, although he was the auteur of the project. He did draw these, though.
    Ok wow...Noah has a stone hammer in one hand, a drill in the other, and a hover craft space ship boat in the background. Holy shit, I'm going to write that the bible's version is more realistic than Rob's. Is that even possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Ross View Post
    I think that most of the hate towards Rob should be directed at the publishers that hire him. While artists were getting rejection letters (including myself) with advice like "study anatomy" and so forth, that very same publisher would hire Rob and get...well...Rob's art. I don't think he's that good but he's successful at something that he genuinely enjoys. He deserved the bashing for the swiping though.
    To be honest some of the hate actually comes from the fact he owed people money, the funny art is just the icing and easiest to post up and make fun of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    Feel a bit sorry for the guy if im honest, loads of comic dicks doing his nut all the time.
    Don't feel sorry for a millionaire. Especially when he made that fortune stealing from his partners and turning a generation off comics at an all time sales peak. He's not the only offender but he is the most obvious target.

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    An amusing (depending on your view) update to the situation

    http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/0...oints-fingers/

    Though if anything I think it also points a lot to the situation @ DC comics as well since others are leaving for similar reasons.

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    When asked about "vices" in the early years of Image, Liefeld responded "You talking about the cocaine parties at Todd's house?"
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=17024

    I always wondered how they had all that energy and pure ballsy behavior. When does it ever pay to be humble as an artist?
    This would also explain Liefeld taking money out of Image Inc. expense account.
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    I knew about five different wanna-be comic artists back in the day who were trying to break into the biz by aping Liefeld's style. They used to try to deconstruct what he was doing stylistically and figure out the tricks so their work would look "cool" too and they'd be able to get in and make some of the cash that was floating around. And sometimes they'd come to me and ask me my opinion; what's Liefeld doing with this line there, how's he doing this pose, what's he thinking there, how's he arranging a page storytelling-wise... and I used to say, "he's making a bunch of lines with a ruler so it looks like there's lots of detail so he can avoid drawing actual objects" or "he's trying to get her boobs and butt in the same picture" or "he doesn't want to draw that bit of anatomy" or "he's trying to get the page done quicker" or "there is no storytelling on this page, its all just stock poses." etc.

    Probably there were hundreds and hundreds of such artists looking to ape Liefeld so they could hit the big time during the comic boom. And most of them failed to even get work. It boggles the mind. Yeah, Liefeld did not do good work. But most of his imitators were so bad they couldn't even figure out how to suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    That rubbery mary jane might not demonstrate correct knowledge of female anatomy, but it definitely shows correct understanding of which bits of female anatomy make 15 year old boys buy comics (well into their 30s)
    +1

    We often forget that most of the fanbase this caters to doesn't want top knotch anatomy - they wouldn't even know the difference even if it was painted blue and danced naked in front of them! They want a nice story line, and tits and ass to keep themselves entertained while they follow the plot.

    It's an "idealised" view which objectifies, and so on and forth, the argument's been done thousand times before me, and with better words at that.


    But most of his imitators were so bad they couldn't even figure out how to suck.
    I hope they knew how to apply cold water to this epic BURN. It literally made me go "OOOOOH SNAP."

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    Rob leaves DC in a blaze of glory, by totally swiping an old issue of the Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/...-george-perez/
    My issue with this isn't even that it was done (this sort of direct panel-by-panel referencing/retelling of old stories has been a comics trope since at least the eighties), but that it was done so fucking badly!

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    Hahaha oh Rob. He never fails to disappoint.

    Oh and someone needs to teach our boy how to draw a baby that doesn't look like Wilson Fisk.

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    Needs a thought balloon because Rob Liefeld's girl looks pretty pissed (where the fuck is my other leg?!?!)

    http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-conte...660.jpg?848685
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    (where the fuck is my other leg?!?!)
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