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    Help me to learn better anatomy

    Hey guys, how are you. I would like to give me the best advice if you have for someone like me.

    I would like to be a character modeler for games. But i barely can sculpt something in Zbrush, because i have no idea of the anatomy of human or animal.

    What is the best way to learn anatomy? By Drawing it? And how that affect me to be able to sculpt digital in Zbrush to make next gen characters.

    I would prefer some good videos from learning anatomy.

    I have found a guy named Riven Phoenix, he have videos of human anatomy, and i just thought, should i buy them to learn?



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    I wouldn't advise you to get Riven's videos, cause I saw more respected members of this forum saying his figures are stiff and lifeless. If you are looking for videos, Vilppu would be a far better choice, but they are pretty expensive. However, you can also get some books and start drawing, which you'll definitely need. Scott Eaton has listed some of the anatomy books he recommends here:

    http://www.scott-eaton.com/anatomy-b...ecommendations

    You can also find his tutorial on sculpting, and the way he teaches anatomy here:

    http://www.pixologic.com/zclassroom/...tteaton/intro/

    You can navigate trough it by pressing buttons at lower right and left, which I find are quite hard to see.


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    By Learning some base principles of figure drawing
    By going to nude model sketch sessions on a regular basis.
    By Observing the anatomy of people and creatures around you and trying to figure out their bone and muscle-structure.
    By approaching women/men (depends on what you are into) with the canned line of "Hi, can I draw you?" and following through.

    You can also practice by observing nude pictures but keep in mind that in all cases you don't trace or copy the model you are looking at the model to analyze and feel the gesture/proportions/emotion and observe the general relativity between various body parts.
    Also keep in mind that photo-reference is no replacement for RL model.

    As for Videos Vilppu is the best I've seen so far but I think books like Andrew Loomis:Figure Drawing for all its worth are invaluable and don't think that watching the videos is a replacement for doing all the stuff mentioned above..


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    Thanks guys, Yea many guys told me about Riven Phoenix tutorials. I will avoid them too.
    So Vilppu courses are the best?

    To be honest i prefer mostly videos tutorials over the books, because books, dunno how to say , i don't mind to song like a whining, but seems to messy for me. There is to much texts than pictures, and even it have pictures, they are not clearly.

    Speaking of Scott Eaton, i would like to ask, does any attend his course, The anatomy course and Zbrush Sculpting? Are they useful, with a lot of information and are they in real time?


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    Draw as much from life as possible. Nothing can beat that.
    If you really want to learn hard and fast, track down a figure
    drawing class, or get friends, family to pose for you.

    Even use yourself as model and just do as many studies
    as you can. Functional anatomy is important yes, but not
    as much as rendering believable forms and flexible poses.

    EDIT: Pretty much echoing a lot of what LightandDark said.

    Last edited by Star Eater; July 19th, 2012 at 08:12 AM.

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    Save up some money (birthday, Christmas, etc...) and get one of these. You'll be able to help yourself.
    Help me to learn better anatomy

    Jay's CA.org Sketchbook:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonika View Post
    To be honest i prefer mostly videos tutorials over the books, because books, dunno how to say , i don't mind to song like a whining, but seems to messy for me. There is to much texts than pictures, and even it have pictures, they are not clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Humanity is fucking doomed.
    But Elwell, how does one use a book? I just set it near my table and I become better, right?


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    I've seen so many "I hate reading/words/books/learning" posts in here lately
    that I think I don't even notice anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Murphy View Post
    But Elwell, how does one use a book? I just set it near my table and I become better, right?
    You put it under your pillow and when you wake up you have it all memorized, everyone knows that.

    Or you apply it directly to your forehead and in ten minutes you know kung fu. Right?


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    I just was just looking for a help, and you guys started to trolling at me?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonika View Post
    I just was just looking for a help, and you guys started to trolling at me?
    Relax, it's nothing personal. You need a thick skin for this business
    and these forums...

    But stating publicly amongst some very learned pro's (not me I'm a dumbass)
    that you don't like books is not the way to make a good impression here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Humanity is fucking doomed.
    Some people have Dyslexia, doesn't mean they are less intelligent than any other person and doesn't mean that they hate literature , so while I do not have that problem myself, I do not haste in judging people for preferring a video version over a book.

    However when I compare Andrew Loomis's book: Figure Drawing for all its worth to Loomis figure drawing they both start about it in different ways and I think Loomis teaches stuff and elaborate on things in a way that Vilppu can't/doesn't and sitting down and practicing together with these is important.


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