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July 14th, 2012 #1
Breaking Bad! (SPOILERS)
I searched and shockingly enough could not find a thread
This is a SPOILER THREAD so go watch the first 4 seasons if you haven't already! Posts about new episodes do not require spoiler tags, but information about upcoming episodes do require spoiler tags (unless it's a promotional image that AMC is using heavily).
Anyways, I feel that this is currently the best show on TV. Though you could definitely make an argument for Mad Men.
The episode "Crawl Space" contains the best 10 minutes I've ever spent in front of a screen. So there's that.
Resumes tomorrow night, I am so effing psyched!
Last edited by Ian Barker; July 14th, 2012 at 03:32 PM.
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Honestly I don't know where they're gonna go from here
I missed one episode and read the general synopsis of when Jessie went to the mob or cartel with Gus and such. Then they fought their way out. Don't know if they killed the head mob boss or something but it seems the mafia is the only end not tied up for the group.
Since Gus is gone, Mike without his boss has no reason to kill anyone, especially not Jessie or anyone close to him since he saved Mikes life.
I guess now it's at the point where Walt could take over somehow? Not sure.
(Which would be ironic since the first couple seasons I kept thinking. This is showing the rise of a new crime lord)
Last edited by JFierce; July 14th, 2012 at 02:58 PM.
July 14th, 2012 #3
You should really go back and watch that episode, it's a great one. The Mafia isn't involved in this show, it's the cartel.
This poster will give you a hint of what's coming
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July 14th, 2012 #4
Yeah I meant cartel, realized after posting, was lazy and just edited 'or cartel' in.
I figured it was a good episode. I saw first 3 seasons on Netflix when we had it. Then they had all of them on demand. Except for that one. I was sad because it seemed intense.
and oh lord that poster confirms what my original suspicions were lol.
I kept telling myself "Hmm... I think he's becoming a druglord. But nah... how is that going to happen...." Then a bit later "Well..... if such and such happens then... it's possible.... but nah still probably not"..... then a bit laaater... ."HOLY SHIT Is that .... really going to happen?!"
July 15th, 2012 #5
There are a couple of loose ends that I can think of off the top of my head. First one would be Gray Matter, the company Walt's research helped found. The second is Madrigal, the German parent company that owns Los Pollos Hermanos and bought all the equipment for the super lab (maybe we'll see some German Drug lords).
Now that I'm thinking of it you have to wonder about Gustave Fring's Ciliean connections. Apparently the only reason he didn't get murdered was because he has connections to some kind of General or something. It gets mentioned briefly in a flashback in season 3 and in season 4.
Also, what's up with Ted Beneke? Is he dead? What's going to happen with that?
God damn, I am so stoked to watch this.
July 15th, 2012 #6
To answer all of your questions, wiggum: (spoilers ahead)
edit: can't get spoiler tags to work for some reason, I'll just not post 'em. But I can remind you that the writers have always made effort to bring back and tie in old story lines.
July 15th, 2012 #7
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July 16th, 2012 #8
"I forgive you."
Chills down my spine. Walt has completed his transition to evil.
July 16th, 2012 #9
July 16th, 2012 #10
This is easily my favorite show on television now. Now that it seems that Walt will become a drug kingpin and the show will delve into darker territory, I hope the show retains it's quirk and dark sense of humor. With that said, I have no reason to believe that the creator, writers and cast won't deliver as they've always blown my expectations out of the water.
July 16th, 2012 #11
It's funny to think Jessie was supposed to die at the end of the first season. But the chemistry was so good with the actors they rewrote it
July 16th, 2012 #12
July 16th, 2012 #13
And Mike was only planned for one episode Originally Saul was supposed to come to Jesse's house to clean up after Jane's dead body, but they couldn't book Odenkirk that particular day so they created Mike the cleaner. Amazing that they can improvise like that and yet make the story feel so intricate like this was all meant to happen.
July 18th, 2012 #14
One thing that's cool (for me at least) Breaking Bad was originally based on an operation in my home town Riverside, CA. The cartels have always had their feet firmly planted there and I remember hearing about an air hanger with a pharmaceutic grade meth lab in it. But they had to move the location to abq for tax benefits.
July 18th, 2012 #15
Well they were originally supposed to be set in California so that does make sense.
Jeeesus if it truly costs 3 million for one episode that's nuuuuuts.
I guess with the newer seasons that's understandable, all the equipment, locations and things needed.
July 19th, 2012 #16
13 Emmy noms, including for Cranston, Paul, Esposito, Gunn, and Margolis (ding!). Nice
July 19th, 2012 #17
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/misc.php?do=bbcode before assuming there are encoded tags.
Vbull does not have "Spoiler tags" as some default setup - they must be coded in by the forum admins to work. If you don't see it in the list, don't use it
August 4th, 2012 #18
I'd bet money that it's not hard to find an insane fanfiction that tries to crossover Breaking Bad with Fullmetal Alchemist. And it's probably absolutely hilarious.
Currently on episode 4, I like how Jessie is slowly becoming a sympathetic character the more we learn about him. The meth is really starting to mess with him, to the point that he hallucinates that a couple Jehovah's Witnesses are the Sons of Anarchy brandishing knives and grenades. It's clear that he really is considering getting off the stuff, but the pressure from his friends and the money involved keep bringing him back.
It's really sad to see how ashamed his parents are of him (he deserves it, but it's still sad), and seeing him take the heat for the weed his little brother was hiding was an endearing scene. The fact that he saved the old chemistry test from high school was contrived (Seriously, why would he keep it?), but it was still nice because it helps us get a look into what he's thinking.
EDIT: Man, AGAIN Walter serves up some justice to another annoying asshole that adds nothing to the plot. What's up with that? Is this really the type of show that gives us a little bit of wish fulfillment against the occasional jackass you can see in real life? I mean, it's GREAT seeing Walter do stuff we all wish we could do to the dickheads who make fun of handicapped people or conceited douchebag businessmen (that one's just a stereotype, but a douchebag all the same), but it's not necessary at all. It's basically fanservice.
Sure, the first incident was bound to happen at some time in Walter's life, but the business guy was just thrown in there so we could have someone for Walter to mess up.
Speaking of which, do we ever find out what happened to Crazy 8's body? Ah, it'll probably be revealed whenever Walter's brother-in-law finds it. What a loveable jackass that guy is. Only the coolest Uncle can say to his nephew "Cause I love ya, ya little bastard."
EDIT: Ah, so they just did the same thing with the Hydrochloric Acid and then flushed him down the toilet.
Now I'll just copy paste what I said in the Just Watched thread, because I think I'll stick here for now.
This show, man. I can see why people like it so much.
Last edited by Psychotime; August 4th, 2012 at 05:47 PM.
August 4th, 2012 #19
Two episodes into Season 2. Tuco just got killed by Hank, who came into the area by complete accident because he followed the signal from Jessie's car, thanks to the hydraulics he had installed.
This show, man.
EDIT: Halfway through season 2 because this show is just addicting!
I love how we're getting callbacks to stuff from the first season, like Gretchen being Walter's ex-girlfriend from back in college. And Skylar's associate, Ted. The best part about it is that the show doesn't insult your intelligence about the fact that they're callbacks to previous scenes.
Plus it's got Danny Trejo!
EDIT: ...Aw, man.
Last edited by Psychotime; August 5th, 2012 at 12:02 PM.
August 5th, 2012 #20
Yep, finished season 2 now. Nice fake out they built up to. I'm pretty sure everyone was thinking the same thing:
It's pretty clear from the point that they got mixed up with Tuco that Walt would eventually turn into the same kind of monster by the end of the show, because the fact is that he HAS to be one in order to amount to anything in the criminal world.
It's something that's really pointed out when Skinny Pete gets mugged, Badger gets arrested, and Combo gets killed. (By the way, I never liked Badger.) The criminal world HAS no law, and the only way to stake a claim in it is to be just as ruthless as Tuco. The nice guy stuff doesn't cut it. Just like Crazy 8 said, this line of business doesn't suit people who believe in things like morals or mercy.
So those constant flash forwards to the people collecting evidence from the house all seemed to hint how the series would eventually end, with the shit finally hitting the fan and the household being attacked.
But as it turns out, it was a big fakeout that gets revealed at the end of the season.
I like how it's very obvious that Walter sees Jessie a bit like a son after all the crap they've gone through together. Speaking of Jessie, man was his part of the plot sad.
I was surprised to see Hank get a little focus, and showing how he's nowhere near the macho dude he pretends to be, being haunted by his confrontation with Tuco despite leaving unscathed. Having a normal reaction to seeing DANNY TREJO'S SEVERED HEAD GLUED ONTO A TORTOISE that actually saved his life when THE TURTLE HAD A BOMB ON IT. And being so shaken by it that he had to leave the operation.
I really like the actor they chose to play the new distributor who owns the local fast food chain. He looks so meek and unassuming, it's just perfect.
It's a nice ending to have Skyler expose all of the lies, and then admit that she's scared to find out the truth as to what he keeps disappearing for, why he has a second cell phone, and where all the money is coming from. It was gonna happen, naturally, but right now I really have to wonder where that leads given that I have two more seasons to go.
Last edited by Psychotime; August 6th, 2012 at 12:09 AM.
August 6th, 2012 #21
All right! Halfway through season three and it's still cool.
I really like how Skyler and Walter's relationship went after she discovers the truth. It should be sad to see what the two are doing to each other emotionally, but I just find it more interesting, because I had no idea where it could have gone, or even where it's going, now.
Did anyone else get the vibe that the Principal was hitting on Walter in the early seasons? Looks like Walter got the same idea too, so I guess that was the point. Seems she worded her offer wrong. Ah well.
The LAST thing I expected out of Hank was for him to actually fight back against The Cousins, let alone SURVIVE long enough to take them out! Hank's badass! I hope to see more of his partner, Gomez. I like that guy.
My second favorite character right now (Jesse's #1) has to be Mike, Saul's clean up guy. He's one note, but he's hilarious because of it! NOTHING fazes him! It'd be great to get a look at his life outside of work. I really want to know! All I know right now is that he's a grandfather...I think. What kind of name is Pop-Pop? Is that a west coast thing? Weird kids.
Geez, Jeese gets his ass kicked alot, doesn't he? Poor guy.
You know, I never noticed that Marie wears purple all the time until it was pointed out to me. That's odd.
Last edited by Psychotime; August 6th, 2012 at 10:29 PM.
August 6th, 2012 #22
I can't believe the entirety of the series takes place over a year.
This isn't criticism, but I think they use irritating behavior as a plot device.
I can't stand Jesse. I think he is supposed to be a bit of a poser though. It just sounds so tacked on whenever he says "bitch" or "yo". But that's his signature. He just reminds me of somebody I would sell oregano to in highschool. I can only imagine the great scenarios they had for killing him.
Skyler is effectively irritating as well. Can't she just get it together and smash Walt in the head with a frying pan or leave or anything productive. The whole willful victim act makes me grind my teeth. Like Sansa in Game Of Thrones.
August 6th, 2012 #23
Exactly. He is a poser. He grew up from an upper middle class family but loves to put up his "gangsta" act, yo! It's funny how despite that he's been to the point of being curled up on the floor, covered in feces, crying himself to sleep after being rendered homeless and nearly penniless. Not to mention all the beatings he's taken or all the times he's had a gun pointed at his head.
I don't know if he ever does (trying to avoid any spoilers), but Jesse is guaranteed to get killed sooner or latter. He's too short sighted and irresponsible (not to mention stupid) to survive without Walter behind him with a safety net.
The only character I dislike on the show is Badger. That guy's a serious jackass. He's one of those guys who doesn't take anything seriously and will goof around and pester the heck out of you when you're busy, and is completely dumbfounded when people tell him to knock it off. He's too stupid to know that he IS annoying, and that's worse than the people who do it on purpose.
You notice how he's not in the flashback where Jesse gets the RV? Yeah, I'd bet money he got his ass banned from that strip joint for some stupid shit, which is why he's not in the flashback at all.
Last edited by Psychotime; August 7th, 2012 at 09:56 AM.
August 7th, 2012 #24
Yeah really. They made that very clear in last nights episode. Apparently you don't want any spoilers, but I'll just say people recover real fast in this show.
Poor Anna Gunn is the only actor that has aged in this show. She keeps putting on and losing weight.
Jesse's costume change is funny given the time line. It's like he was told baggy clothes were out of style and was never seen wearing them again.
August 7th, 2012 #25
The whole relationship with Jesse and Walt is what makes things interesting. Really funny they were planning on killing Jesse in season 1. It's what makes the show. It's a balance scale. One goes darker and the other becomes lighter, one persons life starts to go to shit the other one starts having things go right for them. Not always that way but it's a trend. Right now it's become where Jesse's turning out as an overall good person, even defending not killing the girl recently. Or at least that's the path he's heading. By the end I imagine he'll get out of the business. Walt on the other hand has slowly gotten darker and darker. Occasionally he'll rise up a little with the whole "doing it for his family" thing before he dies. But then he gets right back into the game when he had a get out of Jail free card with Gus gone and no one planning on taking him out, even while his cancer is in remission. Could have gone back to his previous life but he's driven by 3 things. One the fact he got screwed in his old Chemist job where he should have been the one to make millions, two the fact he now has a baby girl and the cancer could come back with no money from a teaching job, three is simply the fact that he enjoys it. Which is the dark side. He can't go back anymore, normality is impossible.
Also a year sounds about right since you need to think of the pacing. Walt was on deaths door so he wasn't just dicking around. First started to cook, then went to a dealer, took the first guy out, met with Tuco, took him out, met Gus and we all know how that went. The events aren't all that long when it comes down to it. Just feels like it since everything was intense.
August 7th, 2012 #26
There's seriously no way one year is a believable time frame for all of this, and I'm only on season three.
How the hell was the DEA keeping tabs on the Blue Crystal, then? Were they basing their data on a weekly basis? Are they saying that after what, two weeks where the tri-state area goes dry, they up and give up? With Hank being the "obsessed" one who's still searching for leads? Seriously?
How long was Skyler pregnant with Holly from the beginning of the series? I thought that if anything we got at least 6 of those 9 months. She wasn't big at all from the start.
How long has Walter been going through his cancer treatment, and how long did he wait before telling his family that he even had it?
How long has it been since the airplane collision above the suburbs? Outside of wearing those pins it seems everybody's gotten over it.
How long was Jesse in rehab? How much time has he spent in the hospital? How long did he know his girlfriend before she died?
How long was the incident with Badger getting busted and they brought in the patsy as a fake Heisenberg, and how long has he been out of town after it?
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August 28th, 2012 #28
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August 28th, 2012 #29
The intro to "Say My Name" was one of my favorites so far. Walt makes that other guy his bitch after 2 minutes of talking. I cant wait for the scene where Hank kills/arrests Walt. It will happen, i dont see any other way out of this. Things are going to shit and Hank wont ever give up on this case unless he dies (which is also another way this season could go. I doubt Walt would kill Hank though.. Is he that evil?)
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