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    Question Landscape....Er- Help on everything

    Hey!

    So recently I just started an art trade with a friend (Well more like trying to befriend!) and I really want to make sure this drawing turns out well.

    My biggest issues are the landscape...I've never really done one before and am struggling in general with making it look correct. I did a few thumbnails at first but I'm starting to think the composition of the one I picked is still off... Any tips/crits or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

    *Also to explain what is going on in the image. The girl is sitting under a palm tree near a huge lake that is leads off into the mountains. (I don't plan on using the palm brushes on the finished drawing, just needed a place holder/base)

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    Your refs for this image? Also I'd like to see your perspective lines/horizon and vanishing points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    Your refs for this image? Also I'd like to see your perspective lines/horizon and vanishing points.
    I used a lot of reference for the mountains but I suppose for the main reference I used is this picture (See below)

    You're questions actually kind of left me very confused...I'm not sure if you meant for them to or not but it got me thinking that I really had completed neglected to think about my horizontal line. (If you look below I made it more noticeable, also the vanishing point is dead center)

    Though I'm still lost as to why the perspective lines? I was always under the impression that they were mostly needed for more geometrical shapes and not in nature type drawings. Though I suppose I could still create all the trees/things geometrical but it seems a bit like overkill cause I mostly looking for a quick background that looks more or less correct.

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    Well Mr. Thorns,

    Hehe this is perfect. You really proved perfectly why perspective is important, even for organic structures--indeed for ANY scene. You always need a HL and think about how it all relates. Find some perspective tutorials if you need to. It doesn't have to be like calculus homework--the basics are quite simple so don't be lazy about it.

    This paintover is why you need perspective--your palm tree is so small that your figure looks about 500 feet tall! She uses those trees as back scratchers!

    On a positive note, its great that you're finding reference and you're obviously paying attention to what a nocturne looks like. Now FOLLOW your ref!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artfix View Post
    Well Mr. Thorns,

    Hehe this is perfect. You really proved perfectly why perspective is important, even for organic structures--indeed for ANY scene. You always need a HL and think about how it all relates. Find some perspective tutorials if you need to. It doesn't have to be like calculus homework--the basics are quite simple so don't be lazy about it.

    This paintover is why you need perspective--your palm tree is so small that your figure looks about 500 feet tall! She uses those trees as back scratchers!

    On a positive note, its great that you're finding reference and you're obviously paying attention to what a nocturne looks like. Now FOLLOW your ref!
    Ohhhh ok I understand!!! Huge error on my part for thinking that perspective didn't apply here.. I feel quite silly now So for example really the only way I would be able to have such a great distance between her and the trees would be if she was sitting up high on a cliff side?

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    Updated version..Still in the rough but I feel like it's actually coming along. Learned a lot already so hopefully in my future landscapes I'll be able to do better.

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    Polished up some more stuff and am adding lighting onto some plants now as well as the water

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    Check out some references for how the moon reflects on water scenes. I'm not sure it would appear where you placed it.

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    Hmm yes, if the girl is sitting in the super foreground which makes no visible connection to the ground in the frame, then the viewer has to assume that the perspective is what it is. That is used a lot, but you need to make better use of atmospheric perspective in that case--it would need to be clear that she is VERY close and the background is VERY far. It would need to be hazier and the darks would have to be much less dark in the background, etc.

    Good fixes--looking much better. Get ref for the reflections hehe.

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    The shading on the boots doesn't match the light source.
    It looks as if part of her left foot is in the water? If so you could do with adding some ripple effects.

    I love the waterlilly.

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    Been a while since i last updated...It's been busy. Decided to go and rxpand on the landscape a bit more. Like it so far! Also thank you all for crits so far!

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    it looks like you took the lillies and reeds from another CGI image.

    maybe look at some good landscape painters, i like cezanne and van gough and monet and theres loads more.
    they images always have cool compositions

    or better still go look at some actual landscapes. youll never be able to create new ones if you dont study real ones. its like trying to write without knowing any words.




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