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July 12th, 2012 #16Registered User
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Thanks for a very insightful review - yeah, I need to work on my characters,that's a big weak spot for me, unfortunately. And I was amazed to hear that you would accept my application for TAD scholarship program! I emailed you, can't wait to hear from you!
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Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes reviews will be shorter as what we have said to the previous artists also applies to those who have shorter reviews. The key is listening to the reviews before and after yours while looking at your own art. Can you see the things that need to be improved if you imagine that same crit was for you?
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July 15th, 2012 #18Registered User
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Jason - did you receive a PM or email from me about scholarship possibilities that you mentioned during my folio review?
July 18th, 2012 #19
I was wondering if there's any more information about how the portfolios are picked - I read that the only portfolios being reviewed right now are the ones that are posted in the chat windows, and the last portfolio that has been reviewed from the signup thread was 6 or 7 July, if I'm not mistaken. While I would love the be there during the session, I live in the Netherlands and can't attend the whole session without losing a lot of sleep, from the times I've seen. Are portfolios from the thread still being reviewed, so participants can watch them later?
Thanks so much!
July 18th, 2012 #20
I got a great review from Jason and John today. You know when there is so much to learn and so many different roads to take it helps so much to hear it from top professionals first hand. You guys were laughing at how you can focus on the issues and just drop in the strengths at the end but that is exactly what a learning artists like myself needs. Now I have some clear and direct goals I need to do to improve and that makes things so much easier. I cant thank you enough.
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July 19th, 2012 #21
Jason, I am really hell-bent on getting a review since this opportunity couldn't of come at a better time in my life. I posted my thread and my sign up on July 2nd, and don't think I got reviewed yet (I watched all the review sessions except july 11, and 13).
What can I do to get reviewed? Maybe I have to be in the session live to get reviewed and you don't do reviews for artists that aren't there live?
July 19th, 2012 #22
Same here , just like Pavel Soko, even my Portfolio is not reviewed.
posted my thread and my sign up but no review yet.
Appreciate your efforts, but mentioning this just as a query.
July 20th, 2012 #23
My portfolio got reviewed in yesterday's on demand episode by John English and George Pratt. I am jumping out of my skin in excitement!
So I just watched it and it was absolutely amazing. Due to a strange set of mishaps, I got the longest review I am aware of anyone getting. My luck is out of control
What happened is that for some reason instead of clicking on the Portfolio thread prepared for this review, my FF portfolio thread got clicked on, which has everything I made since 2009 almost. This has proven to be both a blessing and a huge source of embarrassment as these legendary artists were often looking at little experiments and sketches that I would never have had the audacity to subject them to. Having my worst pieces from 2010 pop up left me gasping for air and almost having heart attacks but there is so much value in that. In having to confront some of my worst works I learned about their place in my current portfolio as well as a big lesson on quality over quantity. I will surely get on that FF thread and clean it up significantly.
The biggest lesson however, is value control. My mid tones were underdeveloped and even missing sometimes. This is no good, and black should not be used as often as I do. "Use colour to shade instead of black". This will have an IMMENSE impact on my future work I think.
They also questioned a lot of the "purpose" of the portrait work I have done. The two that confused them the most were commissions for money done from given photographs. That is the reason for their existence, but it shines a light on what place they have in my portfolio, as well as the importance of "having a point". I never put much thought into having a point, or an idea, and this will be disappointing to the viewers. I should put more context into my work.
Thirdly, I was told to be careful with my usage of photo references. Life studies are a consistent advice I get which was reflected in John's and George's opinions.
In the end, it was an extremely rewarding experience getting this review that shone light on my limitations. It was stressful at times when un-intended work was being looked at, but hey, if you drew it, you must answer for it, right? I wonder how differently it would of went if my best pieces were looked at, but I have a great feeling that what actually happened came from a place of honesty, and far exceeds the "comfort" of them looking at my new works. I am sure there is plenty value in that.
Extremely happy, thanks so much John and George!
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July 20th, 2012 #24
First off, many thanks to Jason, John, George and the other guest critics for providing this awesome service.
I have watched almost every review (multiple times) since they started and have learned an immense amount from listening in, there is a wealth of information and everyone should take the time to catch as many as you have time for. You will learn! Guaranteed.
The greatest thing about watching others get reviewed is that you can maintain your objectivity and really absorb what they are saying and apply it to your own work. As long as you can be honest enough with yourself, you will see that there are others who are at the same level as you, and their critiques apply to you as well. You hear the reviewers making a lot of the same comments over and over, it's not because that's all the information they have, it's because all of us are at similar stages in our understanding of the subject and the advice they give are the broad foundations that good art is built upon. All of us can be better served by going back to the basics.
I'd like to mention that if you want to make sure you get reviewed, join in live and request it. There are only around 10 people on average per session that I've seen, so it should be pretty easy to get in (if your timezone allows). If not, I wouldn't worry, the sessions go til Aug 5th as far as I know, and they do around 5 each time. And please remember that they are doing this for free and have some gratitude.
I had my review on Wednesday, July 18th, John and Jason were the reviewers for that session. I would have liked a review of each of my works, but that's unrealistic given the time (~15min), they looked at everything but made comments on about 4 pieces. And they zoomed right in on what I think are my weakest works. Which, in itself, taught me a lot about portfolio presentation in general: only show your best work, even if it's only a few pieces and make sure every piece is there for a reason.
Anyway, I think that in general, aside from the great advice, the reviews are handled quite well. There's a nice balance of pointing out both the positives and negatives of the portfolio, which is great, because most of us are going to only hear the bad. I know I did when I got mine, it took me a little to walk it off and think about it objectively. Hopefully, people are prepared for that going in. They will point out your weaknesses and it can be harsh, they will probably laugh at you, suck it up and move on. If I only wanted nice words, I'd show my Mom.
John did a paint over of one of my pieces that was insanely useful. He talks a lot about conscious picture making and designing with shapes of light and dark, this really hammered it home. I attached a GIF of what he did so you can how useful it is. The darker version is the paint over, he also lightened up the shadows on the figures which really helped the figures read. Check it out.
Anyway, that's my two cents. Thanks again.
July 29th, 2012 #25
I got my portfolio review from John English on the 25th, and I have to say it was totally worth the two hours wait to see if anyone would show up!
I can't even describe how I'm happy I am to have my work reviewed by him, I knew going in he could give me great feedback, as I know he excels in the stuff I feel I'm reaching for and failing. It was unbelievably helpful to have him point out the weak spots in my pieces and show how I could have done it better, it really opened my eyes. On my own I feel I get stuck on knowing a piece is screwed up, but not knowing how to fix it, and just overcompensating on other areas in the hopes I'll start liking it again. I felt he could really see what I had wanted to do and failed in places and succeeded in others, and offer the pointers to help me on my way. By the end of it I was almost asleep as it was 3 am, but I wrote down all the pointers he gave and will be rewatching the review to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Now I feel I have great direction for continuing forward, and quite a few composition studies to do. He really made me feel confident I can take it to the next level by continuing to work hard. Eventually I'll have portfolio I'm happy with!
Thanks so much John!
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July 29th, 2012 #26
Watched my reviw on demand.Thanks a lot John English for the time you put on the pieces and the comments.It was really interesting.Lots of good points regarding what i need to improve.It was quite inspiring.After watching the recording, i re-worked the two portraits.Much appreciatted.
The sessions i have seen were great.Thanks to all the people doing the reviews.
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July 30th, 2012 #27
July 25th I decided to get off work a little early to catch a session live. I have been watching the recorded sessions for the last 2 weeks and in simple observation I have already gleaned tremendously valuable insight, so I decided I would try to immerse myself in the experience and be present.
I have to admit I had been really struggling with the thought of missing this opportunity due to a wildly unfocused and incomplete portfolio, but my spontaneity got the best of me and I asked for a brief analysis on my current work as John was wrapping up for the evening.
My approach was a bit tenacious, I hope he will forgive me for the opportunism (and the terrible initial mic feedback ). He was gracious enough to spend considerable time discussing my latest projects at the end of the session. I can't even express how incredible it was.
It was my first time receiving professional critique and even as intimidated and nervous as I was, John displayed Zen-like patience with me and analyzed my work with an articulate and constructive optimism. I genuinely appreciate the time and effort you put into the critique of my work, John. I know the whole thing was a bit unorthodox, but you truly honored me and displayed tremendous artistic integrity with that gesture.
My deepest respects to the TAD staff, executives and co-operative professionals involved in the organization and execution of this project. It is clear your efforts have made a very positive impact on the community.
I can certainly say after this experience that I would be thrilled to attend TAD. I will be researching the viability of scholarship with your institution.
And again, my sincerest gratitude.
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August 3rd, 2012 #29Registered User
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Thank you all for the kind words!
It is a pleasure to assist artists looking to improve. I have enjoyed the experience and format of these review and I look forward to returning next week.
I will try to get some additional faculty members from TAD to assist. Should be easy now that we have finished our 3-week workshop for the kick off next semester!
See you on Monday.
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