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    Cow Mario WIP

    This is a request from my brother for his birthday.

    I am drawing Mario/toad witnessing a natural disaster ruin an environment.

    Atmosphere is supposed to be chaotic semi-dark and dramatic.

    I am new to this site and jumped into a post on my sketchbook and put this here. Then discovered a better spot to put this. So i am posting it again.

    Please any input or ideas to help me improve as an artist is more then accepted and will be taken seriously. Or if you simply want to leave a comment that is fine too.

    Last but note least i hope you like my work.
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    At the moment it's a bit difficult to tell what is going on ( I can see toad and Luigi? Or mario... I can't be sure), but without a nicely focused picture, it becomes difficult to try and understand what it is you're doing. I can see as well, in the detail shot, we don't have all the detail that you've done thus far, which again makes it difficult to assess.

    So far I can tell that you've spent a great amount of time in this one corner of the entire page. Are you planning to use up the entire page? I would suggest mapping out your entire composition for this whole page before filling in any small amounts of detail. You should gradually fill in details through out the entire composition equally, this way the entire image in consistent. Also stops you from exhausting yourself on one fine corner, and growing bored of the rest of the image.

    This is really the only kind of crit I can give with this being the only example of your work, but I hope it helps in one way or another. Best of luck with the final result. If you don't achieve exactly what it is you want with this one, there is always the next.

    Also, you have a super long torso. Amazing.
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    Thanks. I'll try my hardest to take better photos. I'm no photographer and im working with poor lightning and various other things.

    As for the composition and detailing. I always break it into sections and work with my focal point first. My focal points usually have the highest amount of detail. I also already mapped out what i want in the whole picture basically and have an idea of what i want to do with it. But i will keep that into consideration.

    This piece is going to resemble my talents as an artist so i plan to work on it and try to make it the best i can possibly do. I will be using this to advertise my work and potentially (if its good enough) bring in customers. So i will be spending as much time on this little corner as the rest of the picture (if needed).

    The main thing i want criticized is my use of lighting. In my pieces i can usually always spot many mistakes with lightning. So i am making it a major point to make sure i do it properly or atleast better this time.

    Also, if i ever hit a point that i am "worn out" or i simply dont know what to do next or 100% positive how i want to tackle the proejct. I simply stop drawing and wait a few hours come back with fresh eyes / mind and go back to work. I am taking all precautions and plan to stretch the time i spend on this out as long as its needed to finish.

    Also, for those who might comment about it. The paper im using is very old (i bought it 4 years ago). It has marks on it and folds and bends. I dont plan on framing it so i didn't do the inch or so your supposed to do on the border. It's basically a poster on art paper.
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    I would post whatever preliminary drawing you've done, so we can see the entire composition. I think it's a valid process to work section by section if you know what you're doing, but it's difficult to critique a drawing that's not there.

    If you don't have a tripod, try setting your camera on something stable, like a stool, and taping or pinning your drawing to a wall. You might also try taking the photo outside, on an overcast day. Someone who knows more about it can give you less amateur advice.

    Oh, and why not buy new paper? The cracks and folds might work with the destroyed scenery, but more likely it just won't look good.
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    Most of the illustration seems the same mid-tone grey, and I can't seem to translate what's going on. Moreover, try drawing some thumbnails, it might help.
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    @Grunler- Thanks for the tips. I try to take it outside when i can and i usually have someone hold it verticle in the sunlight. Then i alter the darks alittle in GIMP to bring out what it really looks like to the best of my ability. But sometimes i dont have the luxury of having someone hold it for me, so the quality of the photo goes to the shitter. Also i forgot to put the close image feature on *facepalm*. As for mapping things out i'm a wierd artist in a sense or maybe just a lazy one. I'll upload something to give a general idea of how i approach things.

    @flashback Thanks for the tip. I probably should work with thumbnails first but when i have an idea and just want to draw i just tackle the project. The main purpose for this is to showcase my technique / ability to draw detail. So as long as it looks like what i want it to, i really don't care much about the other stuff that will be taking far more seriously in later projects.

    But critiques and stuff are still more then welcome.

    Now after this, my whole piece relies on a strong execution of this "wasteland". I need to capture its esscence just about perfect or atleast well. Or else the whole piece falls into shambles

    Oh and as for buying new art paper. I just lost my job its a money issue.

    Here is my latest update. I'm about 10 hours of worktime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PMMurphy View Post
    @Grunler- Thanks for the tips. I try to take it outside when i can and i usually have someone hold it verticle in the sunlight.
    I usually just lay the piece flat on some dry concrete in the shade and take the picture from above. It's not perfect but it doesn't require anyone else and the ground doesn't move. You can also tape it to a box using low-tack tape and set the box up outside. (I get painter's masking tape and moosh my fingers on it to make it less sticky so it doesn't damage the paper.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineris View Post
    I usually just lay the piece flat on some dry concrete in the shade and take the picture from above. It's not perfect but it doesn't require anyone else and the ground doesn't move.
    Problem with that is i need to be real close to the picture to take a photo and i don't want my big body casting a shadow over everything. I tried it.

    As for everything else i will keep them in consideration. For now i'll just keep having people hold it for me
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    Update.

    I found alittle step i can sit my project on when taing photos

    Sorry about not showing the rest, i did leave a little so you can have an idea of what it looks like.

    I'm having an issue with this grass. Any tips or pointers?
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    I see some problems with perspective developing. Oh well. I continue onwards!

    ALso its alittle grey, but i think its still good enough so i didnt tamper with it in GIMP or anything. This is first time i took the photo in shade instead of sunlight.
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    It looks like it's coming along nicely, but still with much work to be done.

    I don't recall seeing a post where you explained quite what's going on - I think at this point, since you added the grass and it completely changed how I saw the perspective, either more WIP shots or a quick artists statement may help quite a bit. Plus, for grass, sometimes ya gotta grin and bear it (which just now hit me is a synonym for smile and nod..) and just do the strokes for the grass.

    Right now, I really can't tell what's going on.

    I'd also work on the entire composition, developing each section equally because if you work for 3 hours on one part, 3 hours on another part, and then screw up on the third section (badly enough that it cannot be fixed), then what? You just lost 6 hours of work. That's not fun. Just my two cents though.
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    I have to agree that your process is just not good. I don't know why anyone would want to work this way. How can you tell what the finished product will be like? Did you do some roughs? If you keep saying to yourself..."ok no one can tell what's going on but they will when its finished"...why would you ever risk all of that time? You need to know that is coming across the way you want it from the beginning, not the end.

    Apart from that, I think you will need linework around the figures to stand them apart. Its all lost in a sea of grey texture. Nothing wrong with using lines tho since they are cartoons.
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    Ok, So this is basically what the background is a previously large body of water got split in half with a unrealistically dramatic earthquake to the point that its slowly pouring and (evaporating) into the earth. The right side is chaotic and untamed while the left side is a bit more organized and tamed. The grass is slowly decaying from the cut-point of the earthquake. The right side of the lake is completely (if not entirely) dried up to exaggerate the effects of the earthquake.

    I understand my process could be better but i have a good grasp on what i want to do so i'm working with it.

    As for the comment on messing up a particular section, i know that fair and well and plan to take it with a grain of salt. Also im spending more then just 3 hours per section, i think i'm at around 20 hours so far? atleast 15 though.

    Also about the sea of grey. I'm waiting to see what it looks like at the end then i'll go back over it to darken spots if i think i need to. I'm currently using the pencils HB,2B and 10B for this. So there are parts of it that literally cant get any darker.
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