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    I might also point out that there are designers whose name alone is enough to sell products. (Hello, Starck.) And there are people making games who nobody's ever heard of and whose games are largely unplayed. So again I say, it doesn't matter much what field you're in, it matters what you do with it, who your audience is, and how you sell yourself to your audience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandasftuw View Post
    I have no idea what post you are talking about =S

    But yes set them straight. Would like to disagree with me? Or would you like to disagree with me about me disagreeing with others? Both seem pretty pointless at this stage as I have demonstrated my points clearly.
    Well, I quoted you. So obviously that is what I was talking about.

    My point is that as an artist, you should always be learning - not being combative. If you post your art and someone says something about it that needs improvement, you shouldn't be "setting them straight", you should accept the feedback, digest it, and decide to either listen and apply the feedback or ignore it.

    But there is no need to "set people straight" when they are offering you feedback. Because you know what happens when you do that?

    PEOPLE STOP REPLYING.
    PEOPLE STOP VIEWING.

    Which is exactly what you seem to have a problem with in the first place.

    Edit: Ah, I see the confusion.
    I read this post:
    OP was one of the responders in a worst of/apology for doing something stupid in the past type threads
    I did not see that you weren't aware of this and that you were not this person. SO...since you weren't. Maybe you should go read that thread. I think you might find it educational to your current behavior.

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    Oh for fuck's sake.
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    You are not understanding the point of my post in the slightest.
    Nobody understands the point of any of your posts.
    Pandasftuw is banned for being generally annoying, and for contributing absolutely nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Oh for fuck's sake.
    Nobody understands the point of any of your posts.
    Pandasftuw is banned for being generally annoying, and for contributing absolutely nothing.
    Thanks Elwell. I was getting an urge to reply to the OP, I'm glad someone stopped that urge in time...

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    I might also point out that there are designers whose name alone is enough to sell products. (Hello, Starck.)
    Never said there wasn't.

    And there are people making games who nobody's ever heard of and whose games are largely unplayed.
    I have already addressed this: Of course there are tons of bad flash video games and student films that get no attention but I am talking in terms of success, a successful web design will not get as many articles and comments and debate as a successful movie or game. They are more interactive and will get a response no matter what. You engage more with your audience and actually have an audience.






    So again I say, it doesn't matter much what field you're in, it matters what you do with it, who your audience is, and how you sell yourself to your audience.
    I agree hence why I never said anything to the contrary. I just said that sucessfull games and films get more of a response upon release than an advert or poster for the game or movie.


    ...because everyone involved in making a movie or game has SO much interaction with the audience. The key grip? The beta testers? The junior accountant? Yep, they're getting loads of fame and feedback from millions of enthralled viewers and players. /sarcasm
    As stated the product will get the coverage, response, feedback and prehaps appreciation, I never stated everyone will get a personal response. Again you should really take those reading comprehension lessons, remember rejecting advice is rude and people won't want to work with you.





    At this point I don't think anyone even knows WHAT you want... Personal fame? Your name in lights? Direct feedback from people who see your work? Asspats and ego-stoking? It's not at all clear.
    Read the OP.



    Also, your general attitude is not going to help your career at the rate you're going...
    Really because I have gotten in to central st martins for design, so my attitude is working pretty well for me. This idiotic notion that I can't disagree with you or I'll have a bad career is laughable and far fetched.

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    My point is that as an artist, you should always be learning - not being combative.
    So if someone tells me racism is right, I should learn that and not combat it?
    We are debating my opinions here not my art.



    If you post your art and someone says something about it that needs improvement, you shouldn't be "setting them straight", you should accept the feedback, digest it, and decide to either listen and apply the feedback or ignore it.
    No one has said anything about my art. But any artist has the right to defend their work so your notion even though it doesn't apply to me is idiotic anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Oh for fuck's sake.

    Nobody understands the point of any of your posts.
    Pandasftuw is banned for being generally annoying, and for contributing absolutely nothing.

    Why are you mad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Lol. So anyone who disagrees with the masses gets banned?

    Freedom of speech who?

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    Oh my god!! Die!! Die!! Die!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacybean View Post
    Oh my god!! Die!! Die!! Die!!
    Death threats? No ban.

    Speaking the truth. Ban

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    Why come here to get advice and attack everyone who tries to help you? Be banned and good ridance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandasftuw View Post
    Because you know me so well. Yeah 10 forum post are really enough to judge a human being. Well done.
    That was actually seven more than I needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorinji_Knight View Post
    Why come here to get advice and attack everyone who tries to help you? Be banned and good ridance.
    Because I haven't attacked anyone. I responded to attacks. I have not disputed any actual advice here.

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