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    For pretty much the same reasons that .sketch and zx52hg stated.

    If it ain't broke in the 80s, please, God, don't remake it now with CGI.
    Going to end up as lame as the Fright Night remake.

    But if I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat humble pie, but I kind of doubt it.
    The difference between this and the original Judge Dredd is that
    the original was never great to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zx52hg View Post
    Edit: I'm actually pretty excited for the new Dredd movie and I look forward to seeing it. I think reboots can be kind of good when the previous incarnations never live up to expectations.
    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    The difference between this and the original Judge Dredd is that the original was never great to begin with.
    Can you call Judge Dredd a reboot, though? Maybe rebooting the chances of a film franchise; but I don't think it's so much revisiting an old movie (like Robocop), as making a fresh, new adaptation of the comics.

    ...which is only my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermis View Post
    Can you call Judge Dredd a reboot, though? Maybe rebooting the chances of a film franchise; but I don't think it's so much revisiting an old movie (like Robocop), as making a fresh, new adaptation of the comics.
    Yeah totally agree with you.

    I just wanted to nip that as I am still on the fence about the new Dredd.
    Which is actually CGI heavy.

    Whereas the Robocop remake is just so much irony. Plus, the model
    work and design of the original ED-209 is just too good to be topped.
    Especially with CG.

    But, I must stress, I'm no authority. I'm just stuck in the 80s. So
    maybe I'm just prejudiced...but ever since Lucas lost his fucking
    marbles, (before prequels, I'm talking "special edition" originals
    ...that Jabba in New Hope...) I've become very cynical.

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    Even though the old Judge Dredd movie didnt go so well, as a kid I loved it. Plus, who cannot say that Sylvester Stallones impersination and "I am the law!" speech isn't awesome?




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    I really hope this doesn't suck.

    If it doesn't, we might get a Grant Morrison written "Rogue Trooper" movie..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_Trooper#cite_note-1
    I would watch that, even if Sam Worthington is the trooper.

    There are so many amazing 2000ad strips, I can see that Dredd is a logical point to start from but in my nerd fantasy world they'd be doing Rogue Trooper, Durham Red and Slaine only after a giant budget adaptation of Glimmer Rats..

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    that charisma vacuum sam worthington needs to be decommissioned and sold for scrap, man i hate that dick

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    I was and still am a big fan of the original Judge Dredd comics. Yes it was a Satire of life and the end of the world.. the first movie seem to catch that in Megcite and the who look. Stallones kills the move in many ways as her dumb down Dredd.. Dredd isn't dumb he is living Weapon of Law enforcement. the whole "I am the Law" is what he is a living breathing law book Dredd is part of the first wave of Judges that later change. He believe everyone word he said it he is there to enforce the law ever letter of it.. that being said you can't do it justice in a live action movie ..There is really no way to get the right actor I feel Stallones had the Jaw but who not leave the helmet on no matter how much they wanted it.. he felt no one who know it was him.. (right no one who know from the Bad acting of Rocky playing Dredd it was you Stallones?) This one Dredd look too small too weak to me.. yes the 3D trailer look as bloody as the comic was and still is. Meg City One look weak and not over crowded as it should be. From what been talking with this Script is taken from the idea of the Block war scripts from the comics.. again taking part but not the whole. It's as bad as the first Punisher.. you want it to work but it's just not going to no matter high body count..

    The whole law system in the Judge Dredd book is very scary and dark and surreal and Mocking the legal system of the UK(Not the US). It was an idea of how dark cant the laws get? Meg cities are dark and nasty and the book never let yo forget it but they did aim sick twisted joke to make you laugh at all times.. Some are very inside jokes and made for the people int eh UK vs the US.. I hope at some point who ever own Judge just give it over to say the maker of AKIRA in Japan and say do it right.. and that will just kick ass. ..

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    That Robocop viral video reminds me how almost every false utopia science fiction movie starts with city scene where is big screen and overly monotone commercials voice begins with a sentence like "Imagine the future where...". Don't tell please. Just show .

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    Velocity: you do know that's Karl Urban, right?

    Worthington's not in this movie.

    Also, the reason for The '95 movie for sucking was Armand Assante was demanding script changes and generally being a dick. The original script was pretty decent, before they removed the helmet and cast Schneider.

    But, nonetheless, the original had the most badass animatronics!

    But, Robocop remake, Judge Dredd remake, Total Recall remake and the resent Spiderman Remake.

    Re-hash re-hash re-hash..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossi View Post
    But, Robocop remake, Judge Dredd remake, Total Recall remake and the resent Spiderman Remake.

    Re-hash re-hash re-hash..
    Least the Spiderman remake had Peter Parker acting like a teenager that was interested in women who didn't act like they were from the 1940's

    But there is also a Superman remake as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    Least the Spiderman remake had Peter Parker acting like a teenager that was interested in women who didn't act like they were from the 1940's

    But there is also a Superman remake as well.
    That's a remake?

    I haven't been following that one, since I'm not a fan of Superman.

    But also, I do agree with Spiderman, even though I'm contradicting myself a bit here. I liked what they did, thought it was pretty well executed on most parts. Peter Parker was actually made believeable rather than just made a stereotypical Nerd. Characters had shades of grey rather than just black and white, people had story and motiv.

    Better than the 2001 one, for sure.

    But, originalilty or lack thereof, too many people reap the benefitsof the industry (from artists (myself included) to drivers and caterers), that it outweights my need for entertainment, so I'll just crawl back to my cave and will continue to nag.

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    Keep in mind I'm not talking about Superman Returns. I can't consider that a "remake" as it was more of a story that continued later.

    I'm referring to Man of Steel which is a remake by Zack Snyder http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/168...omic-con.jhtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossi View Post
    Velocity: you do know that's Karl Urban, right?

    Worthington's not in this movie.
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    I would watch that, even if Sam Worthington is the trooper.

    I really liked Spiderman 2, which made SPiderman 3 all the more painful.

    Speaking of Judge Dredd animatronics, I saw some pics of the ABC robot gathering moss in someones garden the other day, now where the hell did i see that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    Getting tired of characters with pseudo Clint Eastwood voice though.
    totally agree.

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    Dredd was based on Dirty Harry to some extent, so having an Eastwoodesque voice is pretty legitimate. The fact it's now overused as a caricature of ubertestosterone inflated masculinity, doesn't mean that the ubertestosterone inflated Dredd shouldn't use it. He used to live in the 'Rowdy Yates' area of Mega City one! There is however, no reason Batman should talk like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    Keep in mind I'm not talking about Superman Returns. I can't consider that a "remake" as it was more of a story that continued later.

    I'm referring to Man of Steel which is a remake by Zack Snyder http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/168...omic-con.jhtml
    Yeah, if I remember correctly, Superman Returns was meant to be
    a direct sequel to Superman 2. 3 and 4 have been disregarded. (Good thing
    though I like the allusion to Brainiac that the supercomputer in 3 was, IRC
    it was actually meant to be Brainiac in the original script.)

    Also as Vermis stated, Dredd is not so much a remake as an attempt to
    provide a new adaption on the Dredd mythos as it bears no connection to the
    previous effort. Ala Batman Begins.

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    @arshes: figured as much.

    Knowing Snyder's behind it, I'm sure it'll be visually awesome.

    @Velocity: I have a hat to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aly Fell View Post
    Dredd was based on Dirty Harry to some extent, so having an Eastwoodesque voice is pretty legitimate. The fact it's now overused as a caricature of ubertestosterone inflated masculinity, doesn't mean that the ubertestosterone inflated Dredd shouldn't use it. He used to live in the 'Rowdy Yates' area of Mega City one! There is however, no reason Batman should talk like that...


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    for voice, and look they might have gone with Michael Wincott. His voice is naturally badass.

    Amanda Tapping for judge anderson would have been interresting too, but I don't know much about the actress who is playing her in the reboot.

    I'm willing to give this one some hope, despite the slo-mo gimmick. I bet the guys responsible for the movie really cursed when they saw the plot of The Raid though.

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    My beef with the voice is that, Keaton's Batman doesn't feel like he needs to intimidate people. He's intimidating enough! He's the f**ing Batman, he doesn't have to try to be scary. I take for instance, the first scnee in the '85 movie.

    "Who are you?"

    "I'm Batman!"

    You've got a guiy, holding a grown man over a legde, with straight, outstretched arms.

    And he'd dead calm?

    That's powerful! Right there!

    Bale's Batman though, is trying to be fearful, with the low gravelling voice (which most often, looks like he's drooling), and in your face antics.

    To me, feels a bit like the barking puppydog, rather than a crime lord's bogeyman.

    But! Don't get me wrong, Nolan's movies are ace! This is just a detail that kinda bugs me if I think too much about it (and to be fair, never thought about it until I interneted).

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    Thank you, but it's the same clip VK uploaded.

    Watched it again anyway, the levels of violence match the comics
    so by that alone I'm in. Trying not to be too optimistic, but for me
    personally this film is doing all the right things so far.

    Well, almost, It's odd that a psi-judge would be going with Dredd
    on cases like that. There's a reason that Psi division do not wear
    helmets much and while Anderson does see a lot of action and is
    a serious hand to hand combatant (as well as a good shot) they
    don't really have a buddy buddy relationship in the comics.

    I'm guessing they needed a psi on the case. Though they have
    quite a large number to choose form.

    They get along ok, it's actually funny because Andersons flippant
    personality is very grating to Dredd and she knows it.

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    I've been a fan of Dredd since forever, the last movie started ok, it showed promise but quickly lost its bearings.
    The new movie? I like the early Dredd look, the slow mo shoot-out looks good n' visceral, I love it, but...there doesn't seem to be much crazy future about all this, it could be today almost, - Mega City should be a fucked up conglomeration, a crazy overbearing vertical mess, like Bangkok had a love child with Hong Kong, Blade Runner's LA with the lights on, Fifth Element piled on top and an extra topping of Minority Report, with a slum like District 9 pooling around its ankles.

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    This is a still from the new film, - it looks like Birmingham (UK) on a Monday morning.

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    ...and just for the record, Dredd ALWAYS keeps his helmet on, regardless of how plumbed up he is

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    Agree with you there moz, they were really conservative on it's appearance.
    Mega City has always been a sprawling monolithic tower Jungle. Bladerunner
    definitely set the (as of yet unmatched IMO ) standard.

    I've been a 2000AD fan since reading comics.

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    Agree with you there moz, they were really conservative on it's appearance.
    Mega City has always been a sprawling monolithic tower Jungle. Bladerunner
    definitely set the (as of yet unmatched IMO ) standard.

    I've been a 2000AD fan since reading comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    Agree with you there moz, they were really conservative on it's appearance.
    Mega City has always been a sprawling monolithic tower Jungle. Bladerunner
    definitely set the (as of yet unmatched IMO ) standard.

    I've been a 2000AD fan since reading comics.
    Yes Meg city 1 was this over crowed over built walled city. I had the game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_...laying_game%29 and it had some great resources in it the comics seem to left out.. I think sold it to a friend thought still had it but it's not in the game box anymore.. think sold it off after getting into cybePunk I use the ideal of Dredd's world for some of my Gamaworld runs but now that think about it it would work for Dredd too.

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    I haven't seen/played the game, so I can't offer an opinion.
    it just seems unbelievable that these Dredd movies are so lame, - the scriptwriters don't even have to try, there's decades of story-lines to work from. Art directors don't have to re-imagine much, there's years of good solid design, world building, costumes etc that have been tweaked and refined, -
    Robocop managed to hit that balance between anarchy, fascism, corporate and media mercenaries, and huge dollops of black humour (almost seems pilfered from Dredd).

    and while the 2000AD vaults are open lets do...
    ABC warriors, Nemesis the Warlock, Strontium Dog, Rogue Trooper...
    even Thargs future shocks would be more welcome than another Spiderman reboot

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozchops View Post
    and while the 2000AD vaults are open lets do...
    ABC warriors, Nemesis the Warlock, Strontium Dog, Rogue Trooper...
    even Thargs future shocks would be more welcome than another Spiderman reboot
    Or Flesh. Show Terra Nova how it's done.

    ...which is only my opinion.
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    Blade Runner's cityscapes look so good to me because they were done with miniature models and thousands of little lights fed into each bit. I think the Tyrell building was like half the height of a human or something. There's a really good and very thorough book called Future Noir worth reading if you ever want to know about the production of Blade Runner. It covers how they did all the effects, etc. There's a little bit on Syd Mead's design work as well.

    I think CGI has been a really big boon for the television industry and lower budget films, as it allows them to do things that would prove to be far too expensive otherwise, but miniatures just look so good if done right. You see the HKs in Terminator and all the little visual tricks used to make them seem real, and then compare that to the CGI stuff in the last film or two and there's just such a difference. But yeah, time and money and all that.

    I keep seeing these nice compilations of Judge Dredd comics in Waterstones. Very tempted to pick one up at some point. I haven't read them for years now.

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