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    I don't need to draw (Misleading Title)

    So let me elaborate on the title, what I'm trying to achieve here is actually stories of other people, opinions, ideas, insights, whatever.

    The case is, I hate the fact that I sometimes NEED to draw, sometimes when I read posts about people complaining that they're not improving on whatever aspect of drawing, than most of the comments people give is: "You need to draw more!" I understand why people say this, but I personally hate the fact that I NEED to draw to become better, I don't need to do a damn thing, I want to draw because I want to enjoy drawing.

    I guess the best example that I can give is a school related one. At art-school they want you to draw for your assignments, the thing is that you need to complete them to actually become better, and to some this is a great way of improving their skillset, to me sadly, it isn't.

    I personally get quite depressed and irritated when I have the feeling that I drastically need to draw in order to become better, the feeling that I want to have isn't that I need to, but that I want to because I'll enjoy the progress of doing so. (I hope that I'm explaining it correctly as to what I mean to say.) I don't even see any progress in my drawings when I'm stressed about it, but when I'm relaxed and just taking my time to draw something, and this goes on for a little while, then I notice a huge improvement in my drawings.

    Anyway, share me your thoughts CA!
    Telling me that I draw well boosts my ego, but telling me that my drawings suck makes me want to proof to you that I can do better.

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    When you decide to really enjoy something for the sake of it, you stop thinking of "obligations" or "I have to's". That's happened to me as well. When I'm told I need to go back to basics, at first I'm like "what? omg this is tiresome" but as soon as I just start enjoying drawing cubes, spheres and I try to understand why it is so crucial to master them, I actually enjoy studying. If you see it as a "step you have to overcome" you will not enjoy it. Try to see the practice as a wonderful whole in itself and understand its underlying importance. Drawing cubes is boring? C'mon, now I know how to build castles, and that is freaking amazing. So I love studying cubes.

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    I'm confused and more than a little bit frightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    I'm confused and more than a little bit frightened.
    Best response ever. That made me laugh lol (English is not my native language so it was hard for me to get the idea Redystra is trying to explain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Eater View Post
    I'm confused and more than a little bit frightened.
    Wait, what? That wasn't a reaction I expected to read.

    @DaveGarcia
    Hahaha, your reply actually gave me a good laugh (in a positive way) Yeah, I understand where you're getting at, and I actually agree with you. I really strive to enjoy drawing, there are just too many moments for me where I feel that I need to draw or else I might disappoint myself. Sadly, this results in me getting annoyed over myself.
    (It's not my native tongue either, that's why I'm having trouble explaining it properly. Welcome to the language barrier)
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    You want to have fun all the way don't you?

    You know, to get good at something, you do it several times. You can't become the master of pies simply by reading about them. You have to make them in order to learn what you are doing wrong (and what your problem is), so that you can adjust and improve on your problem areas.

    How does this go with art and only having fun doing so, but still improving?
    Just draw, post your work and listen to what people are saying.
    Although I would recommend you draw to improve as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Medusa View Post
    You want to have fun all the way don't you?

    You know, to get good at something, you do it several times. You can't become the master of pies simply by reading about them. You have to make them in order to learn what you are doing wrong (and what your problem is), so that you can adjust and improve on your problem areas.
    Thanks for the reply, based on it I can say that I've failed in explaining myself properly. It's not that I want to have fun all the time per sé (although that would be great if that could be the case) it's just that I want to enjoy myself while I'm drawing. For me, having fun and enjoying myself are two complete different things, somewhat related, but still different. It's also not that I don't know what I'm doing wrong, if there's one thing that I certainly am good at than it's self reflecting on my own work.
    Telling me that I draw well boosts my ego, but telling me that my drawings suck makes me want to proof to you that I can do better.

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    I've said this before in similar discussions. Like anything else the learning stages can be tedious and painful. My first day skiing wasn't fun at all, getting in shape (in the beginning) is torture. With all of these things at some point there comes a tipping of the scales. You spend more time on your feet than on your ass skiing and it starts to get fun, you can run a couple of miles without puking and barriers break where somedays you feel like you could never stop.

    Getting good will always include the bad a good there is just more bad in the beginning 10 years of art than good. Disclaimer: that number will be different for everyone.

    My best advice is not to seek a certain kind of feeling when you draw but to find a rhythm and eventually you'll discover ways to make the journey a pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redystra View Post
    I guess the best example that I can give is a school related one. At art-school they want you to draw for your assignments, the thing is that you need to complete them to actually become better, and to some this is a great way of improving their skillset, to me sadly, it isn't.
    What is it that you are trying to achieve, how are you trying to get there and where are you now? It is a bit of a cliche that you must drawdrawdraw, but some approaches will not work for everyone...

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    I dunno what is with some of these posts. Drawing is your personal journey. Do it or not but don't sit there and give me the "am I fat in this dress spiel".

    Stop whining, work on it if you want to draw, or don't.

    I know that it comes off cold but most of the site really doesn't have *that* much investment in your decision. They'll help if you need it to a certain point, or they'll just move on to the next topic.

    There are already many others that decided what art was worth to them. You need to learn to make that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    I dunno what is with some of these posts. Drawing is your personal journey. Do it or not but don't sit there and give me the "am I fat in this dress spiel".

    Stop whining, work on it if you want to draw, or don't.

    I know that it comes off cold but most of the site really doesn't have *that* much investment in your decision. They'll help if you need it to a certain point, or they'll just move on to the next topic.

    There are already many others that decided what art was worth to them. You need to learn to make that decision.
    It's like a trend lately with new members/artists.

    Guys, don't make your life harder than it has to be.

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    Yeah, you don't HAVE to do anything. How much work you put in and how far you get is entirely up to you.

    Although if you don't like working under stress, I have to question your decision to go into game art.
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    You need to want to draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    You need to want to draw.
    Exactly. It's sad that I can tell who among my peers will most likely not make it. It's very easy to tell too. They look at doing their work like it's doing schoolwork. I hate school work assignments just as much as the next guy. But if you feel the same way about drawing or painting then it might be time to pick a new career path.
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    Well holy horse dung on a stick made of seashells. This topic went exactly the way I didn't want it to turn towards. I guess I really need to start working on the way I try to explain things before I ever make another thread.

    This whole post was never ment about complaining or whining, nor did I ever mean that I can't get myself to draw or don't see any progress. I actually draw everyday and I see improvement, what I was trying to explain is that there are just moments as to when drawing doesn't feel as enjoyable as it sometimes does. That I get a certain feeling that feels as if I'm stressing myself so badly in wanting to improve that I forget that the biggest role in art is to just enjoy creating it and as Arshes Nei calls it "Drawing is your personal journey."

    The only thing that I was hoping to get as replies, were comments of people that have had this feeling before (which I assume many had or still have) and how they cope with it in order to just ease their mind out and stop forcing themselves upon it. Re-reading everything I wrote above does make me wonder where the bloody fuck my mind wondered off to.

    I hope it's a bit more clear now and if it still isn't, then just delete/close this damned thread.

    @Elwell I agree, but wanting things too much can turn on you. (For me atleast)
    @UmpaArt Thank you (Not sarcastic by the way)
    Telling me that I draw well boosts my ego, but telling me that my drawings suck makes me want to proof to you that I can do better.

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