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    Prometheus early reviews

    If anyone's seen Prometheus, and would like to share their thoughts (without spoilers of course),

    please let us know if the anticipation was worth it...
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    Better suited for here, since we had the Avengers thread in there too: http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54
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    Just got home form seeing it, and i can say tis a pretty good flick, it keeps the red lines of tech farly close to the desgins of the first alien movie, as one se elements are similar in looks and i take the pull form that this ship they are on is a one of so tis extra fancy then the one massproduced one in alien.
    My gripes are some logics and some holes in the plot, its as i was digesting the movie i realseid how dumb they were, the writing is what i feel is the weakest link as some areas feels a bit like the one writing, as they dint know what to do.

    Vissually the movie is nicely shot and kept me intrested to the end so i say do check it out if you are intrested.

    I hope my rambeling in broken english made any sens.
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    enjoyed it a lot!
    plot didnt make sense but ill keep discussing that till everyones seen it.
    its lovely to be back in that universe though.
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    Ooookay.
    so it was quite fun. didnt redefine nightmares or anything, but not Episode1 either. the wierd circle over the waterfall you saw in the trailer was cool.

    but...

    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPOOOOIIIILLLLLEERRRSSSSSSSSSSSSS

    why did the ginger guy turn into a zombie?

    so a trillion dollars.. why do you hire such a bunch of losers? the chief scientist is getting drunk while they autopsy an actual alien head. isnt he bothered? whys he so miserable?

    why did archeologists lead a potentially dangerous, and certainly momentously historic space mission anyway?

    why did no one at all seem to display any sense of the significance of finding an alien civilisation?

    why did the human relations robot constantly adopt such a creepy, nastily sarcastic tone with all the people? id reprogram him out an airlock and just talk to the ship like in star trek.

    why did same asshole robot murder the chief scientist on the mission?

    if he wanted to test the black stuff, why not use a lab rat?

    why didnt the scientist notice him swirl his robot finger about in the drink? why did he do that when he had the glass in his hand the whole time?

    he seemed to feel no emotional response to murdering the chief scientist, or even any disquiet at the tactical folly of murdering the chief scientist. why?

    why did the chief scientist not tell anyone about the alien worm in his eye, not even his girlfriend who he just boned?

    why did the medical machine say no woman, you cant use me im only designed to be used by males, then let the woman use it 2 seconds later anyway?

    why given the very real risk of biological contamination do they not even bother wearing facemasks when they microwave the guys head?

    why does all that gross slop that falls into the gaping would in noomi rapaces belly not infect her with more octoblobs?

    after that amazing abortion scene, noomi rapace doesnt seem that bothered shes just been through an unimaginable trauma when shes chatting with captain elba. why?

    why did the ship have cctv holograms?
    why did they not appear in alien?

    how did the cowardly tech guys get lost? they had a 3d map of the ship and were in constant contact with the prometheus.. why not call up one of the floating survey balls if theyre really lost?

    where is the wreckage of the prometheus when the nostromo shows up? is this not LV426?

    if it is, where the wreckage, where did the pots of black stuff go, where is the blue laser thing Cane falls through in Alien?
    if it isnt, do these Space jockeys just crash all over the place on extremely similar planets under almost identical circumstances?
    if so why doesnt Ash know how to read their language or use their machines?

    whats the green crystal thing?

    why was the robot impressed by the gluey stuff on the wall?

    why do people wonder around so much, its like half the time theyre just drivnig about in their stupid dune buggies and an old fire engine. or going into or coming out of the room with the big head in it. just stand still idiots.

    why did the alien special effects give ancient civilisations directions to a military bioweapons plant?

    when were they supposed to have done this? 3000 years ago? 30000 years ago? billions of years ago at the dawn of life?

    if the engineer guy at the start created life on earth, why do we clearly see trees and grass?

    why did his DNA become primative organisms which over billions of years of evolution came to look almost identical to him, sort of?

    if his DNA was exactly the same as ours, why wasnt he a human?

    this biological stuff annoyed me because this is at least partly a nerdy science fiction film for nerds who nerd about evolution all the time.
    plus Larry Niven thought up a much cleverer way to work this plot decades ago in the Knownspace books.

    what was charlize therons motivation in any of this? she decided to take 4 years out of her busy schedule as a top corporate exec to go on a mission she was totally surprised turned up a positive result?
    why not just send a drone?

    the geologist zombie was outside the ship all bent round on himself. I actually liked that, it was so WTF, but why wasn't he detected inside the alien ship and all the way down the valley? when he stands up, one minute hes all contorted, then hes standing up normally as if he just been bending to tie his shoe, which would be impossible.

    why did old Guy Pearce do the whole hologram pretend Im not on the ship thing? particularly when his medical machine was on display? why when people found out he was did they not seem surprised? why did the big special effect hit old Guy Pearce on the head? why did he stand there thinking about it first? why did old guy pearce need to be there in the room anyway, and not just talk through the robot from his bed?

    actually legit plot question, what did David say to the big special effect?

    why was the big special effect having a sleep anyway? youdve thought he'd have things to do during a massive weapons accident.

    why did the aliens wait to destroy earth til now? obviously, to introduce a ticking clock element, [sloppy writing] but they couldn've done it any time in the last shitzillion years couldnt they?

    why did the aliens store their fabulously dangerous bioweapon in the room adjacent to the bridge [again, sloppy writing to allow them to walk from one to the other in a single scene]

    what happened to the black stuff monsters that killed the biologist for no reason and somehow made the geologist a zombie for no reason?

    how did the alien know noomi rapace was on the life boat thing? how did he keep track of this while his ship was falling out of the sky?

    why was none of this sorted out before the movie was edited? or after?

    why did the geologist turn into a zombie?

    why did the geologist turn into a zombie and attack everyone?

    why?

    why?

    the answer is fuck you its a stupid corny action movie, there is no answer. sit back and look at the squirmy monster things. noomi rapace is amazingly attractive too like she was in the millenium movies.. bit of a shame theres not more meat on this films boneless flailing limbs though.
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    Yea, tons of questions. It really felt like there was about half an hour cut out of it. Im really hoping for a good directors cut in October.

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    I saw it when it first came out here, at midnight on May 31st. I'm still not quite sure how I feel about it. At first, I was very impressed with the visuals and enjoyed the momentum of the movie despite not actually enjoying the plot much. The more time I've had to consider it, the less I like it.

    Quite a few scenes felt very derivative, either from Aliens itself or other movies. I'm incredibly annoyed that even trained scientists are written to act like complete idiots with no survival instinct, and the only interesting plotline (the engineers) wasn't really explored and left more as a starting point for a possible sequel. (Also, someone should really explain this to anyone going on a possibly hazardous mission: If something really big is falling on you and it's very long, run perpendicular to the object and you'll be out of it's way in no time. If you fail at this, you are a complete fucking idiot who doesn't understand basic geometry.)

    I'm also curious to see the director's cut, as I'm a huge fan of Kingdom of Heaven but I understand it was incredibly disappointing in the theatrical version.
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    I'm assuming all these questions will be answered in a possible sequel...maybe.

    Thing I didn't like most were the bad prosthetics (just get an old guy to act!) and that Scottish actress' delivery of her lines was....not good.
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    Here are a few initial concepts of the zombiefied Fairfly guy

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/fiefie13.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/fiefie11.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/fiefie10.jpg/

    One thing is for damn sure, the Art of book is going to be a must have, as is the DVD with all the extra material and hopefully added footage.
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    All the really cool things like the pyramid and the space jockey chair and the derelict were designed in 1979 by Giger.
    The ship was meh. The landscape looked like Earth with some lens filters.
    The suits, again meh. especially as they had their cool fishbowl helmets off all the time, inexplicably disregarding even the most basic biosecurity protocols.
    I did like the octoblob thing but it was really just a squid.


    As for the directors cut, I agree this movie felt like it had big bits chopped out.
    But considering Scott is such a name now I'm surprised he had to give into the same studio pressures he did in 1980... surely his say would mean a lot more now and his theatrical release would be as he intended?
    At 124 minutes it was actually quite long, but another 10 minutes in 30 second slices that help scenes remain in some way coherent wouldnt have added many sore bums

    EDIT Ah I see, Scott reckoned shutting out teenagers with an 18 rating would have cost $80million.
    But there will not be a DVD Directors cut. So there you go.

    Overall, Pitch Black was a much better movie, and that had fucking Vin Diesel in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    why did the ginger guy turn into a zombie?
    Oh. I thought that was Holloway.

    Anyway, why shouldn't he? Looks like he got a much bigger dose of the black stuff than Holloway did. I doubt all his cells would've died the instant his space helmet melted onto his face, and look how fast that snake-thing healed when it's head was cut off. (Along with the octoblob, that was the bit that freaked me out the most.)

    where is the wreckage of the prometheus when the nostromo shows up? is this not LV426?
    No. It's LV223.

    Everything else though. Er, yeah. Good questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by dierat View Post
    (Also, someone should really explain this to anyone going on a possibly hazardous mission: If something really big is falling on you and it's very long, run perpendicular to the object and you'll be out of it's way in no time. If you fail at this, you are a complete fucking idiot who doesn't understand basic geometry.)
    I admit I didn't think about most of the stuff VK mentioned (First time round. Ooh shiny effects.), but that bit had me facepalming!
    ...which is only my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    But there will not be a DVD Directors cut. So there you go.
    Then I'm officially disappointed. At least it's not as bad as Robin Hood; that was seriously fucking wretched.
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    I think there will be a special edition for sure. Ridley Scott cant very likely say "Yea, the REAL movie will come out in October"

    Dont forget, as late as Kingdom Of Heaven he made a Dir cut, and Gladiator,so chances are he will do the same with this, even though he cant say it, because people might opt no to go to the cinema. He WANTED to release the movie with an 18 cert, but as you showed,it would have been too expensive. But when it comes to DVDs its a different matter. The Studios want money, and even Ridley has to conform to that. Thats one reason why Del Toros At the Mountains of madness was axed. He insisted on 18, and the studio wouldn't have it. Del Toro has also said that his ATMOM would be very similar to Prometheus, even down to particular scenes, so he opted out of it in the end. Studios control the money and have final say, even with people like Scott and Del Toro.

    If you stayed to the end there was massive Weiland logo with a date (101112) and a website adress. We are all hoping this will be the release date for a jam packed special edition BlueRay.
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