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May 25th, 2012 #1
Any advice is welcome.
Hi, I'm a 35y guy with some experience on several styles trying to focus myself. Any harsh word will be appreciated, specially the useful ones.
Also, I think some of my works will be nice to check, I will try to upload my progress often.
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Some more watercolors
Some more nudes or seminudes, I'm not really bad painting with references, but I'm getting to a point where my watercolors are looking a bit muddy, I'm getting more impulsive and adding maybe too much color.
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May 25th, 2012 #3
Also, some quickies in B&W, Ink and charcoal, everything from references for now.
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May 25th, 2012 #4
First off really like your style and use of color nice to see watercolors too, i need to get back into this myself.
I think you have a very interesting way of using color, in fact it reminds me a bit of Lucian Freud's work, was the first thing I though when I saw that first stunning! image
I think at times it seems you are trying to do too much in certain areas and I agree it can get a bit muddy, I think the first pic is the best in terms of a varied color pallet but also a freshness to the finish.
I think its good to play with color but your values still have to make sense something Lucian Freud does extremely well, think you need to still think where is the light come from which parts are going to be cooler softer ect and separate those tones via your color selection. I hope that makes some sense, but I would say you are well on you way to being above average, watercolor can be hard to work with and I think you are doing it very well.
May 26th, 2012 #5
Thanks a lot @ja1307! that's the kind of feedback I'm looking for.
To be honest, I've seen the work of Lucian just once on my life, before that I already had a very rare color palette.
You're right in that I need to think more before starting to paint. The fact is that a lot of that paintings are supposed to be fast sketches, but some end being unfinished and badly planned paintings, or overdone sketches...I had very different watercolor styles from one year to another, because I've been inconstant and like to try too many different things, that hurts the results.
Maybe I need to stop before the painting and think more smartly about layers and color mixes rather than start working inmediately.
BTW, actually my "model" watercolorist are Mariano Fortuny and Turner, even if my work does not look anyway like that, for present watercolorist I like Alvaro castagnet.
PS Now that you mention the colors:
May 26th, 2012 #6
Hi jeanfumero, really nice start you have here, i like the colors and your technique.
One thing i could suggest you for now would be the backgrounds of your painting,
the first one you posted is better in the composition to me because you included the background to your character,
it allow you to fade the characters into shades at some areas rather than having this "cut off" silhouette of white paper around your models that we can see on your other works.
And maybe you could try some more smooth and continous brush strokes like you would draw with your pen sometimes,
it would be nice to follow the woman's curve you draw rather than more energic strokes that participate to the overworked feeling you talk about.
Anyway, good stuff and alvaro is THE man =)
keep sharings i m o n
May 27th, 2012 #7
Thanks a lot Bouroune, and great gallery.
About what you say, I'm aware about what is called "soft contour" or something, don't know the precise word in English, but I'm familiar with the concept, and you're right, think I'm gonna switch to my "slow" style for some time to try to take care about this kind of things.
About following the womans curves, you mean something like outlines? I don't know if it will fit with my style, but I guess is not that and I'm not getting it.
Thanks a lot for your feedback and tips.
By the way I upload something more, this ones are of my most finished water colors so far:
May 27th, 2012 #8
Hey Jean, nice start! Welcome aboard. I hope you'll enjoy your time here.
It always amazes me people can work in water color. I mostly end up with a big mess. I like the blue girl with the hat. Especially the third one. I presume you use a lot of photo reference? Some of the people have anatomic distortions because of that. I'd suggest to paint a lot from life as well. Water color is the perfect medium for that. It's fast and easy to carry around.
I wouldn't worry to much about the end result. We all want to create beautiful pictures that look good but you learn by doing experiments and you also mess up when doing experiments.
I hope to see more of your work soon!
May 27th, 2012 #9
nice watercolours. I'm guessing they're from photo-ref, which isn't a bad thing, but I'd love to see something from life when you get the chance.
As a crit, I would say that perhaps you can work on your edges a little more. Around a lot of these figures you use a sort of halation effect, or a bright burst of light, and it can be a great effect, but shouldnt be something to resort to if you can't handle the variations in edges.
Anyway, it may be that thats just how you like to paint, but its something to think about.
Looking forward to more
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May 27th, 2012 #11
Lovely, definitely feel that your black/white sketches are much stronger in their values and perhaps it might be good to do a few of those types before you start a piece as the values tend to get lost in your colored pieces, probably because you're focusing on trying to be spontaneous in your colors...
I think limiting your palette before you being to 3-5 main colors might help in that aspect, and don't worry so much about getting "quick" colorful sketches since I think that's only adding to your anxiety when you paint. Those artists who I've seen do that have gone through years of color knowledge and studies before they're able to quickly and skillfully execute a colorful sketch
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May 27th, 2012 #12
Excellent start! My first thoughts are maybe to broaden the scope of your subject matter and media. Always a good way to challenge yourself and force improvement.
But looking great. Keep at it!
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May 28th, 2012 #13
Well, thanks a lot to everyone, thats real feedback/criticism, actually providing something to the artist, not like in other pages...don't want to say names ^^
I actually use a lot of photos or videos, I can't access to life drawing right now, I want to change that, but for now photos and videos are everything I got.
I have a lot of fun messing with things, you learn, you get used to draw more often, your work is more fresh, but with 33 years old I'm feeling teh need of having some really solid works.
Loved every line of your message, the most useful right now, I think you got just my major problems and translated it in words, since I do direct color mixes quickly I feel a loss in the scale of tonal values and sometimes definitely the word for the feeling while I work is anxiety, sometimes is just fun, and thats when something good comes, buts it happens just a few times.
More stuff, some landscapes that I feel semi-happy about:
May 31st, 2012 #14
June 1st, 2012 #15
Would be interested to see you start out really loose(and light if WC) and progressively tighten up the image.SKETCHBOOOOOK..
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