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    George W Bush Found Guilty for War Crimes

    In Malaysia, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisors, Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee, and John Yoo, were tried in absentia and found guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity, specifically for torture. The witnesses included several ex-Guantanamo detainees that gave testimony on the conditions and human rights violations that were systematically carried out under orders of the Bush administration. The trial was run according to the standards set by the Nuremberg Trials to convict war criminals after World War II.

    "As a tribunal of conscience, the tribunal is fully aware that its verdict is merely declaratory in nature. The tribunal has no power of enforcement, no power to impose any custodial sentence on any one or more of the 8 convicted persons. What we can do, under Article 31 of Chapter VI of Part 2 of the Charter is to recommend to the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission to submit this finding of conviction by the tribunal, together with a record of these proceedings, to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council.”

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    Well I guess dubya is gonna scratch Malaysia off his list of places to vacation.

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    High ranking former UN officials present in the courtroom expressed frustration over the evidence. “The UN is a weak body ... and it’s corrupted by member states, who use the Security Council for their own interests. They don’t respect the charter. They don’t respect the international law. They don’t respect the Geneva Conventions,” former UN Assistant Secretary General, Denis Halliday told Press TV.

    “As long as they continue to use the UN it’s going to be somehow redundant possibly a dangerous and certainly corrupted organization,” Halliday went on to say.
    After the case concluded, he said, “This is the first conviction of these people anywhere in the world.”

    While some regard the hearing as purely symbolic, human rights activist Boyle said he was hopeful that Bush and company could soon find themselves facing similar trials elsewhere in the world.

    “We tried three times to get Bush in Canada but were thwarted by the Canadian government; then we scared Bush out of going to Switzerland. The Spanish attempt failed because of the government there and the same happened in Germany.”
    ...Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Well I guess dubya is gonna scratch Malaysia off his list of places to vacation.
    Yeah, unfortunately that's about all this really amounts too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Kobryn View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately that's about all this really amounts too...
    Well, I dunno, maybe they can carry out the sentence with a remote drone. There would be a certain poetic justice to that... :-)
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    id pay $1 to see Dick Cheney's head get exploded. Maybe start a Kickstarter fund for the contract money?
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    I like how people on this forum are absolutely outraged at the idea of killing a bat ('yes these are real' thread), but they are all in favor of murdering politicians.

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    i like that too


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    This all going in one painfully obvious direction.



    George W Bush Found Guilty for War Crimes



    Nothing else will do.

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    Liffey, it's a question of innocence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TASmith View Post
    Liffey, it's a question of innocence.
    I know, that was just a joking observation

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    It would mean more if they had someone who could put on an impartial defense. Also wouldn't hurt if they didn't have a reputation of frequently putting on kangaroo courts.


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    yeah and theyre always batting away the issue like an 800lb gorilla, those sneaky rats.
    wait, who are we talking about again.
    this is about putting the animals on trial right?
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    Louie explains it all
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    I guess bush can't vacation in Switzerland either. Ducking Switzerland for fear of a war crimes trial in Geneva is a pretty big deal.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7141CU20110205

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    Henry Kissingers been doing it a while
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    From http://www.salon.com/2011/11/23/bush...r_iraq_attack/

    "Virtually every Serious political and media elite in America, by definition, would scoff at this tribunal; few things are considered more fringe or ludicrous than the notion that George Bush and Tony Blair should be punished as war criminals just because they aggressively attacked another nation and caused the deaths of at least 150,000 innocent people and the displacement of millions more. But the only thing this Malaysian tribunal is doing is applying the clear principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal as enunciated by lead prosecutor and former U.S. Attorney General Robert Jackson in his Opening and Closing Statements at Nuremberg:

    'The central crime in this pattern of crimes, the kingpin which holds them all together, is the plot for aggressive wars. The chief reason for international cognizance of these crimes lies in this fact. . . .

    What makes this inquest significant is that these prisoners represent sinister influences that will lurk in the world long after their bodies have returned to dust. . . . . And let me make clear that while this law is first applied against German aggressors, the law includes, and if it is to serve a useful purpose it must condemn aggression by any other nations, including those which sit here now in judgment.'

    Who do you think history will (and should) look more favorably upon? Those in this Kuala Lumpur tribunal who objected to the heinous war crime that is the attack on Iraq and attempted to hold the responsible leaders accountable under the Nuremberg principles, or those in America and Britain who mocked those efforts (when they weren’t ignoring them) and demanded that they and their leaders be fully exempted from the principles they imposed and decreed as universal after World War II?"
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    You're not a war criminal if you win.

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    LeMay said, "If we'd lost the war, we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals." And I think he's right. He, and I'd say I, were behaving as war criminals. LeMay recognized that what he was doing would be thought immoral if his side had lost. But what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?
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    I'm not exactly sure who won the Vietnam war. I'd call it an epic fail. I appreciate McNamera's honesty, but it's too bad he wasn't honest when it counted for anything. But in hindsight we would have been drafted if it wasn't for the epic fail known as the Vietnam war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    I'm not exactly sure who won the Vietnam war. I'd call it an epic fail. I appreciate McNamera's honesty, but it's too bad he wasn't honest when it counted for anything. But in hindsight we would have been drafted if it wasn't for the epic fail known as the Vietnam war.
    South Vietnam, propped up by the USA, actually "won" the war which was fought to a standstill by conventional means.

    South Vietnam "lost the peace" when the U.S. Congress totally abandoned them, cut off all funding, and made enforcement of the Paris Peace Accords impossible.

    It was a shameful thing-- the usual cliche is that Congress "snatched defeat from the jaws of victory."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    I'm not exactly sure who won the Vietnam war. I'd call it an epic fail. I appreciate McNamera's honesty, but it's too bad he wasn't honest when it counted for anything. But in hindsight we would have been drafted if it wasn't for the epic fail known as the Vietnam war.
    Actually Raoul that excerpt was about the bombing of Japanese civilians during WWII. But later he talked about the gulf of Tonkin being a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    This all going in one painfully obvious direction.



    George W Bush Found Guilty for War Crimes



    Nothing else will do.
    I'd vote for that. Better than the other two.

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    Do such trials even matter if they don't happen in The Hague?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    I like how people on this forum are absolutely outraged at the idea of killing a bat ('yes these are real' thread), but they are all in favor of murdering politicians.
    Politicians are a lower form of life than bats. And unlike bats, I won't miss them when they're all dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    Politicians are a lower form of life than bats. And unlike bats, I won't miss them when they're all dead.
    Oh come on, won't you miss all the drama?

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