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    Or the fact that your legal disclaimer was, like...three times longer than your actual contest post...
    Don`t get me wrong, having all terms and conditions out is great, but seriously...It`s like

    "Draw me a tree...

    LEGAL - we reserve rights to this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this...."

    Get it?


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    I don't know any artist that would think this is ok. If you are a "studio" you should know better. It reads like a scam. If you had a lawyer give you that spiel (which I seriously doubt) then you need someone who understands working with artists. I think the first thing you're going to have to provide before anyone will ever take you seriously is some kind of pedigree that proves that you or your "studio" has actually done something before.


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    @ ets- here is the main problem in my eyes. having cheap prices is ok.. well, not nice, but it's ok. here you're basically saying artist will loose their rights if they enter anything. this is, seriously, not the normal way to do this.
    you could have had a licence for publicicing in any relation to the contest instead. and one covering the winners maybe, but again, I think giving away a piece of art -for ever, in whatever way someone wants to use it- for 20 bucks is.. well I guess im not starving yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashess View Post
    I think giving away a piece of art -for ever, in whatever way someone wants to use it- for 20 bucks is.. well I guess im not starving yet.
    Not for 20 bucks. For a SMALL CHANCE to get 20 bucks.

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    I move to create a shit list for studios that do this and have it as a sticky. We've racked up quite a few over the years.

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    Game designers and "idea men" need to learn to draw and 3D model and texture themselves before they even attempt to create a studio. Walking a mile in an artists shoe's will give you insight on what the work entails. Give yourself your own restrictions and restraints and ask yourself "How does this make me feel?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brashen View Post
    I move to create a shit list for studios that do this and have it as a sticky. We've racked up quite a few over the years.
    oooh. Got a link?

    oh wow. now it's moved, this thread really took off! I feel almost embarrassed for the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eviltreestudios View Post
    Contest is being revised.


    Seriously, don't even bother. There is simply no benefit to the artist with any sort of contest, with the supposed benefit of exposure being a joke and any rewards being inconsequential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    Not for 20 bucks. For a SMALL CHANCE to get 20 bucks.
    Not for a small chance to get 20 bucks. For a small chance to get a 20 BUCK GIFT CARD FOR THEIR CRAPPY STUFF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Not for a small chance to get 20 bucks. For a small chance to get a 20 BUCK GIFT CARD FOR THEIR CRAPPY STUFF.
    ...which is probably gonna be made from the images you sent them in the first place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eviltreestudios View Post
    Contest is being revised.
    I bet it is considering the ConceptArt.org ass whoop'n that was handed down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayness View Post
    oooh. Got a link?

    oh wow. now it's moved, this thread really took off! I feel almost embarrassed for the OP.
    Don't have any links, but a quick search would probably result with a few hits. That's if the mods haven't deleted them already. There were countless occasions were studios were offering the same crud, and other scenarios where they were stealing art and purporting it as their own.

    Contest is being revised.
    And as for revising the contest. You've sullied your name here and can no longer have anything to do with this community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brashen View Post
    You've sullied your name here and can no longer have anything to do with this community.
    Bit harsh? Not allowed to realise his mistake and run things a bit more realistically/honestly in future?
    ...which is only my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermis View Post
    Bit harsh? Not allowed to realise his mistake and run things a bit more realistically/honestly in future?
    Not gonna happen. Remember, these are the geniuses that can't even keep their site live.

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    Awww. I was really counting on winning that $20 gift card. Darn.

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