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    Modern Women vs Traditional Women: Relationships and Workplace

    Hello Everyone!

    I'm doing a project and I'm also curious of this subject.
    I just need a few questions answered and you reasoning for your answers.

    Do you think its a contradiction to have men treat women in a traditional manner, while women don't have to be traditional anymore?


    For Men: Do you prefer traditional women over modern women?
    How do you treat women at work?
    How do you feel about women in the workplace? Do you like it? Do you respect them or do you just see them as something to look at?
    How does a woman working affection your relationship?


    For Women: Do you like the idea of a being a traditional woman(housewife) or are you complacent with being in the workforce and having equal rights as men.
    Do you think your truly equal?
    How does work influence your role as a woman and as a wife?
    If men "traditionally" were suppose to pay bills and act as a supporter how does that influence your relationship now?


    It would be great to get some responses from everyone!
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    For Men: Do you prefer traditional women over modern women? Define traditional vs modern.
    How do you treat women at work? The same way I treat anyone: respectfully.
    How do you feel about women in the workplace? Do you like it? Do you respect them or do you just see them as something to look at? Women are in the workplace for the same reason men are in the workplace. To work.
    How does a woman working affection your relationship? This question needs to be rephrased.

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    For Women: Do you like the idea of a being a traditional woman(housewife) or are you complacent with being in the workforce and having equal rights as men.

    any woman should be allowed to do whatever she damn well pleases. if she wants to be a housewife, that's fine, it's her choice. if she wants to have an office-based career, that's fine, it's her choice. if she wants to be a nurse, that's fine, it's her choice. if she wants to work on a construction site, that's fine, it's her choice.

    your question is oddly phrased. do you mean to imply that a housewife should not have equal rights as men? why is the word "complacent" used?




    Do you think your truly equal?
    women are equal to men. however, society largely treats women as second-class citizens at best and cattle at worst. it is paramount that this be changed in the future. hell, it is paramount that everyone be treated equally in the future.



    How does work influence your role as a woman and as a wife?
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    If men "traditionally" were suppose to pay bills and act as a supporter how does that influence your relationship now?
    i'm not sure what you're asking here.


    Do you think its a contradiction to have men treat women in a traditional manner, while women don't have to be traditional anymore?

    of course it is. treat a person the way they want to be treated. if a woman does not want to have children, or if she wants to work a traditionally male job, you have absolutely no right to tell her otherwise or deride her for her choice.

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    yes, it absolutely is.
    I edited it to "overt" instead. Since it's still pervasive, but everyone knows it's a no-no. Doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, but I think most sexists I've encountered don't even KNOW they are sexist. They think they are progressive and instead end up being patronizing. That's just my experience, though.

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    "women are equal to men. however, society largely treats women as second-class citizens at best and cattle at worst. it is paramount that this be changed in the future. hell, it is paramount that everyone be treated equally in the future."

    in 2150 when people can and do change sex whenever they please, sexual inequality will seem as obsoletely barbaric as slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    in 2150 when people can and do change sex whenever they please, sexual inequality will seem as obsoletely barbaric as slavery.
    Just wondering, have you read Donna Haraway's Cyborg Manifesto? It's a bit dated now, but still I think you might find it interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vritra View Post
    Just wondering, have you read Donna Haraway's Cyborg Manifesto? It's a bit dated now, but still I think you might find it interesting.
    I hadnt! I have now. I have to admit I kind of read it like I would Coleridge or William Burroughs, understanding little but enjoying the imagery.
    What did you take from it?

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    Yeah, something about the word "complacent" is kind of offending me there.

    And would any male ever really answer "yes" to the question of whether a woman in the workplace was just there to be looked at? I don't think sexism like that is overt anymore. The remaining bits of sexism are more subtle and insidious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyKitten View Post
    And would any male ever really answer "yes" to the question of whether a woman in the workplace was just there to be looked at? I don't think sexism like that is pervasive anymore.
    yes, it absolutely is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyKitten View Post
    And would any male ever really answer "yes" to the question of whether a woman in the workplace was just there to be looked at?
    They might not say it out loud, but there are plenty of piggish guys who would think it. And of course there are plenty of decent guys who wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffey View Post
    They might not say it out loud, but there are plenty of piggish guys who would think it. And of course there are plenty of decent guys who wouldn't.
    That was my point, Liffey. That you aren't going to get honest answers from most sexist people. Whether because they are in denial, or because they've learned those opinions aren't popular to express out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyKitten View Post
    And would any male ever really answer "yes" to the question of whether a woman in the workplace was just there to be looked at? I don't think sexism like that is overt anymore. The remaining bits of sexism are more subtle and insidious.
    I don't think anyone would answer yes to that question on a public forum with members of both genders like this one. Perhaps if it were an anonymous survey they would, but even then, the question is phrased in such a way that the survey is telling you this is a shitty thing to admit to. It's like asking "Are you kind of an asshole?" instead of "Do you sometimes purposefully perform actions that make other people unhappy?" The latter might actually encourage people to admit things they're not proud of whereas the former accuses the subject and alienates them.

    About the 'complacent' question, I think the problem there might be the writer doesn't actually know what that word means.. it doesn't seem to fit in that sentence at all.

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    Its for a school project for English.
    She just told me to ask questions comparing traditional woman and modern day women and how they were treated then and now.
    I made the questions. Sorry if there badly written my grade is slipping and this is a side project so i can graduate lol

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