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    Yet another "create art because you love it, not to get rich" post.

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    "Most every artist in the world will likely not make a living from their work"... Uh, say what? Except all the artists who ARE making a living off their work.

    Like, y'know, a lot of the people on this site.

    What's ironic to me is that he makes a comparison with musicians supposedly never making a living off music, and meanwhile I'm making a living off art and my sister used to make a living playing in orchestras. (And yes, she played classical, she didn't have to play Doobie Brothers...)

    What in the world is he basing his conclusions on?

    (Granted, if he's mostly talking about indie comics, that is admittedly not a lucrative field...)

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    I don't think it's an absurd statement since he said most every artist. I doubt he has any statistics but I would guess the majority is not making a living doing it. It also doesn't mean they're not making money from it, it just means it's not the majority's career or sole source of income.

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    And then God said, "Let us make man in our likeness and our image. Let us make him ridiculously hard to draw so that poor artists everywhere will have to spend 10,000+ hours failing repeatedly before they can begin to capture the form and likeness onto a two-dimensional surface." And there was man. And it was good. And artists everywhere lost their minds.
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    I'll admit...I skimmed. I read:

    Most artists no matter how good won't make money

    (Wait wha-?)

    My art led me to god!!!!

    It's one thing to say most artists wont make money. But to say that the skill level is irrelevant as well to the profitability is idiotic. And then he went from that to talking about how it helped him find god. -.-

    In other words, why are we even wasting time talking about this?

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    I think it's the way he phrases things. If he'd said "many artists" or "most aspiring artists" or "a majority of aspiring artists" won't make a living off their art, I might buy that. A lot of people think they'll become artists and then end up doing something else after art school, while having an art hobby on the side or something.

    But when he says "most every artist in the world"...? I mean, come ON. It's nowhere near THAT bad.

    I think he needs to do more research on art careers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UmpaArt View Post

    It's one thing to say most artists wont make money. But to say that the skill level is irrelevant as well to the profitability is idiotic. And then he went from that to talking about how it helped him find god. -.-

    In other words, why are we even wasting time talking about this?
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    The thing is, any arts/creative field is a pyramid. There are a very few people at the top making a lot of money, and a ton of people at the bottom making no money. Everybody knows about the people at the top, because they're famous, and everybody knows about the people at the bottom, because there are so many of them that everybody personally knows some. But there's a lot of room in the middle.


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    Last I checked they're making a movie out of Ghostopolis, starring Hugh Jackman. Unless he really screwed up the contract on that one, I can't imagine Doug is being entirely truthful with us about how much money he makes these days.

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    This guy is on crack if he says things like this

    "Go to a California plein air art gallery in Laguna Beach and look at some of the greatest paintings of our times being sold for $400 bucks a pop. Half of that goes to the gallery. Good luck on that get rich thing."

    He is off by a factor of 8 to 10. I don't know what he is smoking but it just sounds like an excuse to be mediocre at something and ignore the successes around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    "Most every artist in the world will likely not make a living from their work"... Uh, say what? Except all the artists who ARE making a living off their work.

    Like, y'know, a lot of the people on this site.

    What's ironic to me is that he makes a comparison with musicians supposedly never making a living off music, and meanwhile I'm making a living off art and my sister used to make a living playing in orchestras. (And yes, she played classical, she didn't have to play Doobie Brothers...)

    What in the world is he basing his conclusions on?

    (Granted, if he's mostly talking about indie comics, that is admittedly not a lucrative field...)
    And WHAT'S wrong with playing the Doobie Brothers!

    (Shame on you, QG)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    This guy is on crack if he says things like this

    "Go to a California plein air art gallery in Laguna Beach and look at some of the greatest paintings of our times being sold for $400 bucks a pop. Half of that goes to the gallery. Good luck on that get rich thing."

    He is off by a factor of 8 to 10. I don't know what he is smoking but it just sounds like an excuse to be mediocre at something and ignore the successes around him.
    Exactly. He sounds like a lazy POS that never had the work ethic/drive to become skillful and now he's taking it out on the world with these blog posts.

    A little bit assumptive, sure............but that's what it seems like to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlyhazard View Post
    Exactly. He sounds like a lazy POS that never had the work ethic/drive to become skillful and now he's taking it out on the world with these blog posts.

    A little bit assumptive, sure............but that's what it seems like to me.
    Unless you actually know the person, it's probably better to avoid those kinds of statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlyhazard View Post
    Exactly. He sounds like a lazy POS that never had the work ethic/drive to become skillful and now he's taking it out on the world with these blog posts.

    A little bit assumptive, sure............but that's what it seems like to me.
    Whatever else one might think about Doug TeNapel, you can't say he's not skillful or successful.


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