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    I want to improve....

    Hi there,

    I came to a point where I'm not satisfied with my drawings or digital paintings.. I used to draw all the time and then after high school had about 5 years break where I didnt draw much, about 8 months ago I started drawing a lot more but I realised I had a lack of understanding and the fundamentals, all the knowledge and practice from art classes seems to have leaked from my ears, now I am concentrating very hard on improving , and am studying a Bachelor of Illustration design and graphic design but as I am learning on my own I thought this would be a good way to motivate myself and receive criticism along the way if I update this thread... a lot of my drawings I have done before can be found at http://www.sam-shields.com but here is my sketchbook in chronological order...

    thanks...
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    ignore first, its just for themain image, want some thing a bit cooler, this comes laterrr

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    some more studies/practice

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    here are some more studies/practice sketeches

    please do not hesitate to give critsss

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    some posemaniac practice

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    Hi, I think you are doing great studying Loomis. Another author you should study is Bridgman. Keep going! I is never too late to learn the fundamentals.

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    hi Cristina, thanks for comment, i will check him out, can never have enough study materials!

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    I am kind of in the same boat as you. Restarted drawing and studying Loomis!
    Keep at the study's and i am sure you will learn quickly. Atleast I feel like his books explains things well and understandable.

    Please, excuse me for the possible errors in my English.

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    hey man, seems we are, its unavoidable hhaah just cant skip the hard stuff, but yeah, im actually enjoying learning from this book, thanks for stopping by

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    spent 10 hours drawing today, started off with some posemaniacs then worked on anatomy, perspective and still life stuff, filled a whole sketch book, will upload proof tomorrow, for now, i am very very tired and must sleep

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    Hiya! Your story sounds similar to mine. I gave up drawing for a few years and then picked it up again only to realize that my fundamentals were completely lacking. I feel like I'm finally back on track now. Still plenty to learn, but at least I'm working toward that goal.

    Anyhow, a few things I noticed...

    First is something I tell everyone who is using Posemaniacs... While a great tool for reference, you are better off drawing from life or from photographs. If you want to do gesture drawing, great. If you can't find someone to pose for you, check out tools like pixel lovely and love castle. Just google them- they are effectively the same as Posemaniacs, only with photos instead of a 3D model.

    Second, I think you may have better luck with people if you take a temporary detour and practice some still lifes and fundamentals like perspective drawing. Drawing people is really hard! Plus, if you ever plan to draw people from imagination (and not just from observation), it's really important. You'll also get more out of the Loomis books when you do. Most of his work is based on the application of building up complex forms from simple shapes. Long story short, there is a direct connection between being able to draw simple objects and more complex things like people. For now, keep it simple.

    And lastly, don't lose hope if you don't immediately see results. XD sometimes it can take time for your hard efforts to pay off. As always though, remember to practice effectively! Don't forget to have fun too

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    Good studies! The first advice I'd give is to work on some Loomis to get a better sense of structure, but you're doing that already, so hey. Spend some more time on the basic shape, skeleton type stuff to get a better idea of how the body is structured and moves in 3D, before spending too much time on muscle and the like.

    Also, as syrella says, Posemaniacs isn't really a great place to start - Pixelovely and the Drawing Script are better bets, and real-life lifedrawing is even better still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrella View Post
    Hiya! Your story sounds similar to mine. I gave up drawing for a few years and then picked it up again only to realize that my fundamentals were completely lacking. I feel like I'm finally back on track now. Still plenty to learn, but at least I'm working toward that goal.

    Anyhow, a few things I noticed...

    First is something I tell everyone who is using Posemaniacs... While a great tool for reference, you are better off drawing from life or from photographs. If you want to do gesture drawing, great. If you can't find someone to pose for you, check out tools like pixel lovely and love castle. Just google them- they are effectively the same as Posemaniacs, only with photos instead of a 3D model.

    Second, I think you may have better luck with people if you take a temporary detour and practice some still lifes and fundamentals like perspective drawing. Drawing people is really hard! Plus, if you ever plan to draw people from imagination (and not just from observation), it's really important. You'll also get more out of the Loomis books when you do. Most of his work is based on the application of building up complex forms from simple shapes. Long story short, there is a direct connection between being able to draw simple objects and more complex things like people. For now, keep it simple.

    And lastly, don't lose hope if you don't immediately see results. XD sometimes it can take time for your hard efforts to pay off. As always though, remember to practice effectively! Don't forget to have fun too

    Hey thanks for the tips! I will check out those sites and get practicing , the last tip is the most important one, I can't give up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revidescent View Post
    Good studies! The first advice I'd give is to work on some Loomis to get a better sense of structure, but you're doing that already, so hey. Spend some more time on the basic shape, skeleton type stuff to get a better idea of how the body is structured and moves in 3D, before spending too much time on muscle and the like.

    Also, as syrella says, Posemaniacs isn't really a great place to start - Pixelovely and the Drawing Script are better bets, and real-life lifedrawing is even better still.

    Hey thanks for the tips, I will do some more drawing script studies, Ive used that site before, but ill do some more studies from it.. its such a challenge to get my brain to think in 3 dimensions from thinking of everyting in contours and being flat, but i am determined to somewhat over come this hurdle!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammfshields View Post
    Hey thanks for the tips, I will do some more drawing script studies, Ive used that site before, but ill do some more studies from it.. its such a challenge to get my brain to think in 3 dimensions from thinking of everyting in contours and being flat, but i am determined to somewhat over come this hurdle!!!
    Yeah, that's where learning perspective and also doing still lifes will help (in my experience). The issue with photographs and drawings is that they are flat. Being able to hold something in your hand, rotate it, change the lighting, whatever is extremely helpful.

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    10 hours of drawing

    here it is, i left some really really sketchy stuff out, this is yesterdays practice! spent 10hours practicing!

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    Hi again, I think you are making some progress.

    For the basic shapes, I'd suggest picking up some geometric solids and doing some studies of them.

    Here's an example of what I mean:
    http://www.enasco.com/product/TB18604T

    I have this same set and find it very useful. You can also buy wooden versions really cheap at a craft store or simply find shapes around your home. Probably something with a uniform matte finish is best. You don't want to deal with lots of shiny highlights at this stage.

    Perspective drawing will help when it comes time to drawing these in different orientations. Having the shapes to hold and turn around will help you understand form and volume. It should also help you when it comes time to render and apply lighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrella View Post
    Hi again, I think you are making some progress.

    For the basic shapes, I'd suggest picking up some geometric solids and doing some studies of them....
    Hey, thanks for visiting again, I'll look for some things around the home, I just acquired a really helpful perspective drawing book, which has already helped my understanding some more,

    more studies coming!!!

    thanks again

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    Okay..

    gotta practice, found time to practice today, in between purchasing a moped and uni classes, must practice, practice, practice... set up a lame still life setup, need to get some apples and oranges... purchased a book, and studied some D'Amelio - Perspective Drawing Handbook... here is a little bit of loomis, perspective, gesture studies and poses from pixelovely.com.. havign trouble with line of gravity and showin weight with poses, I cant quite grasp the idea... any help from anyone would be great... thanks...

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    ...

    didn't get a chance to do much sketching today but i was determined to get some sort of practice in......
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    Like the studies and it is great you are doing stuff from imagination, I would say your recent posts face is wonky. I don't know how to explain it well lol, but for example, the right ear is smaller than the left and the left's perspective is quite different to the right one. Also the chin is quite slanted to the left and the eyes look to wide for the face and you can avoid things like this by getting the sketchbook or piece of paper you are working on and put it infront of a mirror to see what is off propotionally etc, I mean I don't mean to sound like a douche ( because I am still a beginner myself ). I would suggest you study faces more, especially from different angles, and you should try and get Andrew Loomis Heads and Hands, to get better a better knowledge of facial structure, I am studying it right now. So keep up the hard work man because you will end up being amazing at this rate. Sorry for the text wall XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by superhmerh View Post
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    Hey man, no probs, I need a text wall hahah, thanks for the advice, I'll get my hands on "heads and hands". I also realised a problem I have which is I settle for unsatisfactory results, like I drew that head, then I think, yeah, it looks like a head, that's good enough... I guess I need to spend a bit more time and give more attention to fine tuning stuff.. Thanks for stopping by!

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    my arm hurts

    my arm is hurting badly, not sure why haha,.. but anyways, heres some practice from today, from loomis heads and hands.... im still trying to think in three dimensions , which is so much harder than it sounds, im sure everyone would know, but im determined to improvE!!!!



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    a few more for the day

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    Well, I'm very disappointed as I missed a day of studies, as I was in hospital due to my dodgy heart, well I'm out now and will be uploading AsAP!

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    todays studies

    managed to get some drawing practice in today, heres some gestures, anatomy and perspective practice...

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    Don't be to hard on yourself for not drawing a day if you had to go to the hospital! there are worse things then that. Its good to see you are doing a lot of practice!

    Please, excuse me for the possible errors in my English.

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    Hey sammfshields, I'm really liking the latest stuff, it seems like your lines are becoming much more loose and confident which is great! I'd defiantly recommend George B Bridgman's books on drawing from life and the figure, his extensive anatomical studies are really helpful and he has a great sense of mass and weight.

    Another book I'd recommend is called Force: dynamic life drawing for animators, its written a bit more artsy and ambiguous than most books but it really helps me to understand how to approach drawing and how to draw more lively and dynamic poses, I really dig it.

    Most importantly though keep at it! Your getting better and better!

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    Hi!

    I'm really admiring the amount of studies you're doing, your hard work is really great! It's going to pay off for sure.
    Aside from what the others said, I noticed that in your studies, you're kind of avoiding the hands, haha. Maybe it's because you're focusing on the structure of the rest of the body, but I suggest doing a few hand studies to get out of your comfort zone, if you want.




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