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    Master studies: Suggestions?

    I'm not sure if this is the right place, or if this even already has a thread for it; if so, go on and delete, and sorry! Ahaha.

    I seem to the the only one sometimes at a bit of a loss when it comes to Master Studies. Not so much how to do them..but rather, who to do them off. In particular, I'm interested to know which painters I can gleam the most off of in terms of portraits, but I'm welcome to just about any type of study. Who do you guys suggest? Or even, are there specific pieces you all would recommend?

    More then open to discussion about the topic, not just sharing resources. c: I used to dislike doing studies of photos and other artists, and now I love it -- it helps so much more than I ever expected it to.

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    For portraits, some good ones are:
    John Singer Sargent
    Diego Velazquez
    Van Dyke
    Titian
    Giovanni Bellini
    Franz Hals
    Gilbert Stuart
    William Merritt Chase
    Ilya Repin (not sure I'm spelling that right...)
    Cecilia Beaux

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    To be honest, I think this thread needs more love http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50150

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    You don't know what you like? Who you admire? Think about it for a little while and when you can answer these questions you'll have your answer. It doesn't HAVE to be some old dead guy either their are plenty of masters this side of the daisys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    To be honest, I think this thread needs more love http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50150
    I will be adding to that thread eventually!

    OP- Check out this site and go nuts...http://www.museumsyndicate.com/artis...e=2&category=1 You'll find all the well known masters there and some not so well known, like this guy, who kicks all sorts of ass.
    http://www.museumsyndicate.com/artist.php?artist=716

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    To be honest, I think this thread needs more love http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50150
    7 year old threads with a shed load of broken links and comments to pictures I can't see? It puts me off ever so often to use them.. but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordLouis View Post
    7 year old threads with a shed load of broken links and comments to pictures I can't see? It puts me off ever so often to use them.. but that's just me.
    Hence why it needs more love and less bitching.

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    That said, master studies make sense if you have access to the original. Then you can see the brushwork, value and color clearly. Especially the brushwork, which is the primary point of making a master study.

    Copying a photo of a painting will not be nearly as useful.

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    I love that thread, so many interpretations and methods used. Just because you're copying a photo doesn't mean you won't learn something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    That said, master studies make sense if you have access to the original. Then you can see the brushwork, value and color clearly. Especially the brushwork, which is the primary point of making a master study.

    Copying a photo of a painting will not be nearly as useful.
    What Arenhaus said. Go to the closest museum and sign up for their copy program. Copying photos is really such a waste of time. If you want to copy a master go to the source. Any idiot can do bad knock offs of photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    That said, master studies make sense if you have access to the original. Then you can see the brushwork, value and color clearly. Especially the brushwork, which is the primary point of making a master study.

    Copying a photo of a painting will not be nearly as useful.
    I completely agree...a master study is a particular kind of endeavor and you learn the most by working from the original and in the same medium. There is one important exception, imho, that can be a valuable, that is to do what I would call a "master value study" which you can do in charcoal and fairly well from a good, high-res photo. Yes you leave behind color, brushwork, impasto, etc. but you're still challenged to understand values, edges and good drawing.

    Just my two cents.

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