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April 18th, 2012 #40
Picasso painted this when he was 14 years old.
Should we stop painting?
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April 18th, 2012 #41
Learning to create images, art or otherwise, is not always about physically doing the act.
Learning to think is also apart of the process. Learning to analyze is apart of the process. Learning to understand the why of the process and why this works and that does not in an image is apart of learning.
So physically doing the work is not the only thing of importance, but seldom emphazised.
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http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=192127"Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."-John Huston, Director
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April 18th, 2012 #43
It's your job to find out what kind of artist you are and where your audience is hiding.
To paraphrase Alexandro Jodorowsky, "Good for Algenpfleger to be Algenpfleger, not for me." I am not some other artist, I will never be some other artist, so I'd better master whatever the fuck I am and nail things to the wall with that.
April 18th, 2012 #44
Also, frankly, in the grand scheme of things, that example is a rather mediocre painting, taking it by itself and not grading it by the artist's age... As are most of the examples of so-called "child prodigy" art given so far. It doesn't serve much purpose to look up to work that's mediocre but "so much better than me at age X!!!"
Better to look at the best of the best and aim to be better than that.
Or better still, aim to be better than you, wherever you're at now.
And then practice.
April 18th, 2012 #45
Lux_Aeterna, I've felt the same way and I still do. The way I like to look at it (and a bit of a reaction to what yochanan said about wasting time, and having fun drawing) is that ultimately, it all comes down to priorities. Almost every person in this thread has a point, but this is based on their priorities. Flashback has the priority to push everything aside and draw 10 hours a day. Like him, there are a multitude of driven people here and out there who want to be superstars when they're 20, and manage to drive themselves to push aside everything else to draw with every spare second they have.
I myself am a person with many interests, curiosities, needs and principles, only it happens that the largest part of it is focused on 2D visual art. However, I also want to be able to play the violin, speak Turkish, spend time with my friends and family and catch a few rays of sunshine while reading a book, make sure that my grades in school stay up and sleep (at least) 8 hours a night.
The point im making is, if you want to become a pro at drawing asap, then you should probably listen to the advice of the people telling you to draw every second you can. However, don't stress out about not drawing if you don't want to (and not wanting to, I think, is different from not having the discipline to go through the motions and draw the shaded cubes and spheres), because if drawing doesn't make you happy or feel fulfilled, it's not worth it anyway.
I'd like to add that I also think that with all creative processes (so especially when working on an illustration or something similar, though I also think studying anatomy and composition needs to click in your head at some point) you need to give your subconscious some time to process the creative problem you're dealing with, and doing something else might provide you with new inspiration, or allow your problem to fall to the back of your mind and let it rummage about there, where it can be solved. There's a few talks on this that are part of the TED conferences (ted.com), though I can't seem to find them right now (Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's talk about flow is a classic I always like to refer to though, you can go from there).
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April 18th, 2012 #46
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I still agree with LordLouis' post regarding MindCandyMan's thread and how he was a unique example with certain "luxuries" that many people do not have.
It's just not realistic for most people (at least those who work full time jobs) to have that much time to draw.
At the end of the day though, you gotta make due with what you have and I think that 4-6 hours of drawing per day is still good enough to improve at a fast rate....at least that's what I got from Magic Man's sketchbook. Talk about a prodigy...he became pro 6 months after taking art seriously.
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April 18th, 2012 #50
I can enter the main page on Da right now and i´m sure the popular deviations would be some girls showing her cleavage or some cat picture with 12, 000 comments, so there´s that. Its a social network and social networks operate on different standards.
And even if there´s kids with skill, who cares? thinking on those bases is just finding excuses to bruise your ego, no one´s here coming at you judging you because of your age
April 18th, 2012 #51
And yeah, sure, there's some good stuff buried on the site, but the overall site standards are about as low as you can get. So judging by who looks good compared to DA standards or judging by who's popular on DA is pretty naive.
I have yet to find an "amazing fifteen year old prodigy" on DA who was truly amazing by real-world professional standards.
April 18th, 2012 #52
I worked a full time job and came home and painted for 8 hours a night. I painted all day on weekends for five years. If you want something you have to work for it. I got rid of my tv and quit playing games until I made it as an artist. If you believe you can do it, what's it to you to give something up for a few years?
But see most people hedge their bets and allow outside things to decide for them. Its the easiest thing in the world is to not follow your dream, to sell short have a bunch of interests and not decide, and just fit in or care what other people think.You either have the courage of your convictions or you don't, and no one cares what you choose.
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
Henry David Thoreau