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April 8th, 2012 #1
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Cool pictures but the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that the first thing that went through my mind when seeing these was: "Yup, Rapoza style 100%". I`m sure his rendering and fanart portraits are very appealing to you but you don`t want to be considered a copy cat. The knowledge is there, now try finding your own visual language. There`s no point re-creating something that has been already done, right?
Good luck, you will go far.
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April 8th, 2012 #5
Thanks for the feedback, guys. Dave is a great artist and it's true that I really admire his work, not just his fan art. I know it may be construed that I am just emulating his style, which is perfectly understandable, but this is mostly for learning purposes. Maybe I should have opened with the explanation as to why I'm doing these, but they are just a fun way for me to study.
I was originally not going to show these off so much as the first portrait (Clayface) started out as a sketch with no real goal in mind. But it became what it is and it helped discipline me to really finish a painting. It is fantastic rendering practice and I am having a blast doing it. Maybe it's just me or maybe others feel the same way I do, but I've always wanted to pay homage to the things that inspired me while I was growing up.
I'm also aware of how lame I probably seem for defending my apparent Dave-ripoff style, but it's just a ton of fun for me to do these.
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April 9th, 2012 #6
these are fantastic. its unfortunate that its going to be hard to seperate these from what dave rapozza did with his different series for most people. looking at them on their own though they are extremly well done, it was fun to see the evolution of clayface on your site.
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April 9th, 2012 #7
Your explanation is totally understandable. We all imitate before we do our own thing. These are extremely well done, but I'd encourage you to show off your more original work rather than these (especially in your portfolio). No need for you to be labeled a Rapoza knock-off for no good reason. You've easily got the chops now to push your own work. Keep at it man.
And thanks--I got lucky with that piece.
April 9th, 2012 #8
I am with Noah and Darjan there. I really don't mean to call you out on that for no reason but it's so obvious that I kind of need to just in case that you're doing this on purpose:
the way you put your website (even the font) and the logo of the IP on the piece is pretty much exactly the same way Dave Rapoza does it, which if I WAS a dick would be a pretty good reason to at least ask if you actually want people to think that you are the guy who actually painted Daves paintings :/
April 9th, 2012 #9
@Noah - Of course! I will definitely be doing more original work. These portraits have actually made me realize that I have gotten better. In fact, I am learning so much more doing them and applying different studies as I go along than ever before. I'm very excited for them since it's an IP that I (as well as most of us) have grown up with and love very much. I rarely do fan art as it is. It is unfortunate, however, that the community thinks dramatic lighting of a highly detailed closeup shot is patented by Dave Rapoza. I love the dude's work, and it definitely has been an inspiration for me, but the difference here is that he got his chops before me. I didn't want to do these before I felt like I could do them justice. And now, apparently, I am getting flak for having done it after him.
@Gloominati - If you spent the time it took you to type that to look up my work, you'd see that I've been signing with my URL like that for over a year. I started adding it to all my work when I bought the domain for my site. And I won't even acknowledge that last question because you didn't really ask it.
April 9th, 2012 #10
dude, chill, it's allright, I don't even care . even if you invented that way of signing your work it's still Dave whos work is famous and you're the guy painting the stuff he paints, trying it the way he does it and signing it that same way. Even if that last point isn't on purpose it's still the way it is and people will see it that way, either falling for it or pointing it out like I did, thinking it's kind of weird especially if they don' know the rest of your work.
EDIT: Now the only reason I am even pointing this out is because unlike hundreds of other people who tried to be Dave the last months your work is actually very good and I think that this way of presenting it (intentional or unintentional) is harming you more then it helps
April 9th, 2012 #11
Then I'm sorry for being so defensive. I thought you were accusing me of something pretty low. I may just finish up this last portrait I started and continue with busts or something. I didn't want to have to do that but if it indeed does me harm like you claim then I should probably save some face and do something else.
April 9th, 2012 #12
I thought exactly the same thing when I saw them. Zapata, Rapoza, same font, same subject. But nicely done.
Like you say, try using these skills in new topics and youll be onto a winner!
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April 9th, 2012 #13
Love it! Want more! Stat! Really excellent textures on everything! Great work!
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April 10th, 2012 #15
Unfortunately, since Dave's portraits were such a great success if anyone were to do a redesign portrait of any classic comic book or cartoon character it'll be claimed as Dave Rapoza-esque. This is sad because I'd love to do portraits of classic characters I grew up watching on TV, I did a painting of Goliath from Gargoyles not too long ago and anticipated being called a copier of Rapoza's style so I changed it to being an upper body to head shot.
I for one think these portraits are fantastically done, I love the textures used on the Scarecrow and Mr. Freeze. Of course they are similar to Dave Rapoza's style but that doesn't mean people still can't enjoy these, so well done sir
April 11th, 2012 #16
Hey dudes, don't worry about it. I encourage everybody to do whatever they want. I would never take offense to this and I don't think anybody else should. You did a great job on these and for me its very flattering to know I had a part in inspiring you to do something.
I used to always try and do other peoples approaches and style constantly to learn, but you may as well get some publicity out of it at the same time. So no reason why you shouldnt do your own batman thing. You will eventually go into doing exactly what you like, I know it because you're obviously skilled in what you do. So don't worry about it, just keep on doing exactly what you want. Even if that means learning from someone else directly. xoxoxo
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April 11th, 2012 #17
wow guys, cool it. its obvious these are meant to emulate dave as a form of learning. and the bottom line is, everyone here has learned from emulating and copying others in the industry. i could go into specifics about the few of you that told him not to do it, and trust me, youve all done it. so have I, so has dave. Its obvious Pixelhead is at a point in his career where hes starting to see some serious changes in his work, and attaching himself to an IP like dave did is an excellent way to generate some attention. This is just like when marko created the degenesis look, and then tons of people emulated it to learn from and further that initial idea we all loved so much. were all guilty of doing this, which sucks to say since its not some kind of crime to begin with.
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Hey man, beautiful work. My one crit is that you seem to have gone straight for the fantasy woman with ridiculously sexualized clothing cliche. I'm personally really tired of seeing that sort of thing.
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