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Thread: What's going wrong? Help please!
April 2nd, 2012 #1
What's going wrong? Help please!
Ok, so I'm kinda new to conceptart.org, and this is my first thread, so bare with me please...
I'm basically 18 and want to get into the concept art/digital art business, but I live in the UK...and it's really not that big in this country...But anyway, I have been practicing a little with digital art, but please note that I am using:
-GIMP (not photoshop, because I can't afford it at the moment)
-A Trust slimline tablet
I will post a few pieces of my work shortly, I'l try to knock some speed paintings and so basic fundamental stuff on here as best I can.
So I would REALLY appreciate some guidance etc for my work. I don't care, treat me like an idiot, I need to criticism and am desperate to improve, so thanks a lot and I hope to here from you guys.
(Oh and by the way, I'm currently taking fine art as one of my subjects at college, which isn't really helping me to improve my fundamentals...)
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April 2nd, 2012 #3
Fine art *should* be helping you improve your fundamentals, unless you mean it's a crap program.
I recommend you post one example at a time in the Critique forum. Best way to get a response.
I was once on the receiving end of a critique so savagely nasty, I marched straight out of class to the office and changed my major (sketchbook).
April 2nd, 2012 #4
Ah ok, thanks guys, I think I will post in the critique section. (you can tell im a newbie alright)
April 2nd, 2012 #5
Also "knocking out speed paintings" is probably not the best way to hone your fundamentals. I'm not sure what stage you're at or what you've been doing so far, but the most helpful thing you can do is draw and paint a lot of stuff from life, and do so carefully, paying attention to proportion, form, value, relationships, color, etc. This isn't a speed contest, at the beginning it's usually better to go slow and pay attention and try to get things right. Speed comes with practice.
Also study the usual basics, anatomy, perspective, and so forth. (The stickies in this forum, the Fine Art forum, and the Tutorials forum have a lot of useful resources and info to get you started on fundamentals.)
Aaaaand, yeah, start a sketchbook thread and start posting WIPs in the critique section to get some specific feedback and critique.
April 2nd, 2012 #6
Ok, and another...How the hell do i delete my threads???
April 2nd, 2012 #7
You've only made 2 threads. We all make stupid ones at times, so don't worry about this one. Just waiting for an old one of mine to bite me in the butt any time now.
April 2nd, 2012 #8
April 2nd, 2012 #9
I'm also 18, at college in the UK, with one of my subjects as Fine Art.
It may be true that they don't teach you anything to improve your fundamentals, but all that means is that you should be teaching yourself.
I've been in the same situation for the past two years, with the crappy A Level teachers, but I've been actively using that time as an opportunity to learn what I want.
You can bitch about the quality of your education all day, but in the end it comes down to you. Go here, read the threads, go to some life drawing sessions, keep pushing.
You're going to suck for a long time, I know that I still suck big-time. You just have to accept that, put the excuses away and work towards your goals.
And don't worry, there are more jobs in the entertainment industry than you'd first think, and many more paths to take than just 'concept artist'.
Also what the other guys said.
April 2nd, 2012 #10
Ok, I'm going to go with what the other guys said and post in the critique areas
April 2nd, 2012 #11
April 3rd, 2012 #12Traditional Artist
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Seriously, I don't mind looking over stuff and making sure I have a better understanding, but if I'm paying to be at a class, I expect to learn something. Now, if I sign up for a class for completely beginners obviously it won't be the learning endeavor that an advanced color theory class would be, but you get my point. (sign up for stuff that is at, your slightly above your skill level.)
Doctors heal you, Artists immortalize you.
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach" - bullshit.
The usual staples for anatomy:
April 3rd, 2012 #13
I don't advocate not being taught if you're paying to be taught, I was just giving him advice for the situation we're both in. Here we don't have electives, we can't go into a more advanced class, it's all just 'Fine Art A Level'.
When I go to university this September, I damn well expect them to teach me well for the money we have to pay (Although I have heard a few opinions to the contrary).
No-one said to us 'you teach yourself here', we just literally receive no actual education apart from the occasional vague critique. I've done a taster course at LARA, so I can tell the difference between good critique and uninformed biased drivel.
I would also argue that no matter how good your education is, what you get out of it is proportional to what you put in. Thus, it is entirely dependant upon you.
April 3rd, 2012 #14
Why is fine art not improving your fundamentals?
I don't understand.
I thought fine art meant drawing/painting traditionally from observation et. al
April 3rd, 2012 #15
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