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    I need a little criticism.

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    Wait! I also need help making them bigger then too!

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    You should probably move this to the Critique Center.

    Where did it ever say that Humpty Dumpty was an egg?
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    to many weird textures and its too flat other then that the design is awesome

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    Thanks, but uh, where is the Critique Center at anyway?

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    Moved.
    If you want your pics bigger, you'll have to attach larger pics.


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    Does this work?
    I use a different program than all the ones mentioned in the thing, so my work is gonna look cruddy for a while.

    And thanks Elwell... but how do I make some of my pics smaller, I'm trying to upload a couple and it says it's too big.

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    Nope, they aren't really any good.

    You need to study the fundamentals of drawing. Without trying to draw anime. With a pencil instead of computer.

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    And just for your own awareness...it's "critique" not criticism...related words but significant difference. And yeah, what arenhaus said...but, if you want it you can get there.

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    Change your image resolution to 72 dpi. Mess around with the image pixel length. Usually anything under 1000p in the longest direction works. That helps shrink the file size so that it is easier to manage when uploading to the internet. Sometimes it requires a bit of finagling.

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    Yes, I know they aren't good, and I have a lot of better stuff like actually in my sketch pad, but I have to save up and invest in a scanner first. Also I'm still just learning the program as I go along, so like I said, it's cruddy.

    And another thing, I am a complete new boot at this stuff, as a self-taught artist who's only done the same stuff since I was a wee lad.

    I will need to change the pixel size then, lots of changing in my stuff....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13thprotector View Post
    Yes, I know they aren't good, and I have a lot of better stuff like actually in my sketch pad, but I have to save up and invest in a scanner first. Also I'm still just learning the program as I go along, so like I said, it's cruddy.

    And another thing, I am a complete new boot at this stuff, as a self-taught artist who's only done the same stuff since I was a wee lad.

    I will need to change the pixel size then, lots of changing in my stuff....
    The critiques still stand. If you know they are not good, then do not
    be surprised when you are actually told they are not good.

    Do not try tackle digital programs just yet. As mentioned already
    study the fundamentals, leave out trying to to adapt to any
    type of style such as anime. It is more important that you have
    a firm grasp of elements such as weight, anatomy, perspective,
    values and composition.

    Pencil and paper and drawing the objects and people around you
    will help you far greater than any digital programs, which at this
    stage, will not help you at all.

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    It be the only stuff I got so far, and I'm trying to figure everything out. Negative or positive, I don't mind at the moment.

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    It is good that you do not mind receiving negative critiques
    that is the right attitude to have and is commendable.

    But I must emphasize that trying to tackle digital before
    getting more of a firm grasp on some of the examples
    listed above will severely hamper any progress you wish
    to make.

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    This is how I re-size pictures. I open them with Paint, then I use the re-size button on the tool bar. Once that window is open you can change the size of the picture as a percentage. As in, it will say 100 in length and width when you open it, but you can type in whatever you want and it will scale down without distorting the proportions of the image.

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    I mostly got into the digital stuff because I got it for christmas... also because I don't have any colored pencils, nor paint, I'm mostly a black and white artist with pen as a favored thing.

    That might help a lot, but I'm sure that my program might have resize.... if I can find it, though, I'll use paint and do that, hopefully it'll work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13thprotector View Post
    I'm mostly a black and white artist with pen as a favored thing.
    Well that's perfect! You don't need anything else to get started. Or, maybe an eraser too, could be useful. If you start to dig in with colour now it will be way too overwhelming for you to handle, and you will only be distracted from focusing on what you actually need to at this state. Which is even worse if you're hell bent on doing it in photoshop, with all the mega-awesome filters'n tools and shit.

    As you've probably read before around these forums is that many recommend people too look up the Loomis books, I myself haven't read them thoroughly yet, though I've only heard positive things about them. And they're free! So why not give it a go?

    Another book I would recommend is "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" which helped me a lot when I was just starting out. It's also a pretty interesting read on how our brains function and such, aside from all the assignments.

    Good luck. And don't give up. Not yet. Not ever.

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    Well, I figure it's going to be a lot harder, but I have worked with a lot of color before, and I'm not using photoshop, I have a thing called Correls Painter Essentials 4, and that's what I use.
    I did use it to color one of my comics before, that is when I got my hands on a scanner.

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    Until you go back to actually grasping the basics you will be wasting your
    time with digital programs.

    Stick to doing studies with pencil
    and paper for now.

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    The most studies I've ever done is looking at other pictures, other ideas and deriving poses and body posture to my characters. That's actually why I started drawing people, and my old school was having a book sale, only books with characters in them were Manga, so that's where I started.

    I've tried taking from others and blending everything I've experienced, and I've gone to lengths of drawing random people on the street. But I think where I'd like to stand is to actually go in and put all my ideas into the story I've been creating with the hundreds of characters I've created with silly names and weird hair from the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13thprotector View Post
    I've tried taking from others and blending everything I've experienced, and I've gone to lengths of drawing random people on the street. But I think where I'd like to stand is to actually go in and put all my ideas into the story I've been creating with the hundreds of characters I've created with silly names and weird hair from the future.
    Why can't you do both?

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    Indeed. I always say there's nothing wrong with playing
    digitally and having personal projects. All that is
    though is playing, not growing artistically.

    But if you actually -want- to see improvement and create
    art that is on a par with those that inspire you, constant
    studies are a must. Otherwise you will be in for some
    serious frustration.

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    I try to, but I'm not as smart as a lot of people, and it's tougher for me to do a lot of stuff since I'm such a simpleton... lots of good things come from being like that too, but I'm sure it just takes determination and hard work, I think.

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    Don't put yourself down like that and don't let other people
    make you feel that way.

    If I did not think you had potential then I would not hassle
    you in this thread so much.

    Being smart has nothing to do with having dedication and drawing
    the things around you. Which is the main basis of "studies"
    It does take determination and hard work. Like blood sweat and
    tears hard work. But that hard work in the beginning will make
    your progress that much easier and fulfilling.

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    Well, I do plenty of other stuff too. MY favorite is just character design and comics. But I still have to admit I'm not as smart as others, mostly in computer stuff, but all around I still have much to learn.

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    You're as intelligent as you allow yourself to be. It almost sounds like you're punishing yourself?

    What country are you from and how old are you? (Don't mean to sound like a total stalker but I'm just curious lol)

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    I'm just a bit understanding, and I only beat myself up when I know I've messed up, after a little pain I will promptly go and fix the problem.
    Everyone still has much to learn, I just acknowledge it.

    I live in America, Texas to be exact, and I am about 17. Don't worry about the stalker thing, as long as you don't start asking me like what my social security number is or what my credit account is... because I don't know them.. really I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13thprotector View Post
    It be the only stuff I got so far, and I'm trying to figure everything out. Negative or positive, I don't mind at the moment.
    I think that understanding how you should look at their critiques is important. They've been in your shoes one way or another. And quite frankly, you're wasting your time right now doing those.

    Not literally. Of course, not matter what you draw will always be helpful. But, these guys know that you will benefit 100X more from doing things like anatomy studies and still life studies.

    The main issue is when you just start with digital, you don't know how to operate the program well and are just figuring everything out. That combined with your desire to make really cool characters= bad bad work. And it's not just you. There are tons of guys doing the exact same thing. Myself included when I first started with digital. I made a lot of shit lol. Still not the best or anything like that though.

    BUT. You still have to get those characters out of your system, don't you? Afterall, why draw at all if you aren't drawing what you want to. My suggestion would be to draw your characters with pencil. Don't paint them in photoshop, it just won't work until you get stronger fundamentals.

    For me, the most I learn in photoshop comes from doing still life studies. I always learn a ton from them. And it's still painting so it's pretty fun.

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    Well, that's nice to hear. I know it's a lotta crazy work to go through on the computer, I draw these characters all the time, I'm just trying out my new program(and if you saw the other stuff I've done in the program, this is a major improvement) so I can get use to it and hopefully get better. I don't have photoshop, unfortunately, so I have to do the best I can with what I've got.

    Besides, it's fun to actually look at something with a little more color.

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    Here's a little encouragement for you, go check out the first and latest comic pages for "no need for bushido":
    First page (done 10 years ago): http://noneedforbushido.com/2002/comic/1/
    Latest: http://noneedforbushido.com/latest/

    I saw the artist at an anime convention earlier this year, was stunned by the progress he made. It takes a lot of hard work and practice, and 10 years may seem long to you right now, you'll be surprised how fast it'll go by.

    Anyway, be patient and work hard. If you are confused about anatomy, post one pic at a time for critique. It may be easier to help you to learn that way.

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