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    Artistic Integrity

    Anyone ever read the Fountainhead by Ayn Rand? It’s a book about what it means to have artistic integrity. Is there such a thing and does it matter? What does artistic integrity mean to you as an artist?

    I think artistic integrity is developing and working in your own style. I think a lack of artistic integrity is working in another living artist’s style for money or as a cheaper replacement. I also believe that I am not just a wrist for hire to people without art skills. Clients need to colaborate not just dictate. This has nothing to do with what you charge for your work, or what genre of work you do, this is about how you work and what part of you are you willing to sell to make a living.

    I’m not talking about student work or practice. I'm also not talking about large projects like movies or games or large ad campaigns where a consistent look is necessary and the work needs to be done by large groups of artists in collaboration towards a single cohesive style. I’m talking about when a client comes to you and says 'I want this piece of art or a series of paintings but I want you to copy someone else’s style.' Do you do it or pass it up?

    It seems as the economy has deteriorated people are willing to do anything artistically to make money. I think everyone has to decide this for themselves and it defines you as an artist and it can define your career. Where do you draw a line in the sand when it comes to your work, if at all?
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    Not really, since you aren't voicing a personal opinion. Is that yor stance? Its a philosophical question not a legal one.
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    "Do you do it or pass it up?"

    Depends how behind on the rent you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity Kendall View Post
    "Do you do it or pass it up?"

    Depends how behind on the rent you are
    Wouldn't that also depend on how much they were paying you? What if they were only paying you enough for 1 months rent? You could end up doing things like that for your whole life. What if they paid you enough to not have to work for five years would you take anymore jobs like that if they came along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Not really, since you aren't voicing a personal opinion. Is that your stance? Its a philosophical question not a legal one.
    Given that books, or movies, or X is usually held by a business. The chances is giving your own spin on things gets hard.

    Philosophy often is applied in legal matters, and visa-verse.
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    I would pass. On that scenario for sure...I have. Even when it was for a lot of money (slightly different but it was to AD a game I wasn't comfortable with due to the violence/theme). At the same time, AD on a project is a good chunk of time, not just a painting or even a series of paintings.

    But yeah, given the hypothetical "Would you paint X for a million dollars?" (or even 100K) - sure. I value my integrity, but it is for sale (in case anyone wants to know ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashback View Post
    Given that books, or movies, or X is usually held by a business. The chances is giving your own spin on things gets hard.
    How so? Frazetta, Krenkle, Whelan, Zug, McCaig all painted Princess of Mars illustrations and all of them are in their own style.
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    There are some things that I won't do in the case of private commissions. Your example is one of those things. I feel like if someone is hiring me they should be doing so because they like my work and my interpretation of things. I'm not a drawing monkey that is there to make copies of another person's style.

    I've be yelled at about this before ("why wouldn't you take the money stupid") and I can't ever find the words to explain how I feel about that stuff. There are certain things to me that are just not worth the cash and making myself go against my "beliefs" is not something that I would really like to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    How so? Frazetta, Krenkle, Whelan, Zug, McCaig all painted Princess of Mars illustrations and all of them are in their own style.
    True.

    Now, fast forward, 1998.

    Extensions on copyright make it harder to know where your stepping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashback View Post
    True.

    Now, fast forward, 1998.

    Extensions on copyright make it harder to know where your stepping.
    Still trying to understand why you think that interferes with your style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Still trying to understand why you think that interferes with your style?
    Think about it this way, I went to the see classical music from Mozart, yet I cannot use any sound recording device and tell you in the playbill it's for copyright reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    How so? Frazetta, Krenkle, Whelan, Zug, McCaig all painted Princess of Mars illustrations and all of them are in their own style.
    A tangent:

    Look at Frazetta's early E.R.B illustrations. Then look at James Allen St. John's preceding work. Tell me there's no stylistic mimicry involved.
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