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    Bobby Chiu quotes some unfortunate advice in favor of spec work and gets shredded :)



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    Are we supposed to be shooting the messenger or something?

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    Nah, I just found it interesting that for one person's recommendation to work for free there's a bundle of others' horror stories about it.

    Bobby has nothing to do with it, really, apart from "he should have been more careful / known better".

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    People are just blowing it out of proportion. He was talking about things that you could do for charities and such. Groups that aren't going to buy art, but will use it if its donated. It would be different if he said to do free art for the industry, but since when is charity a bad thing? Not addressed to anyone in particular... just my thoughts on those overreacting.


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    The relevant, and overlooked section:
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynn Johnston
    Free artwork will be appreciated by service clubs, libraries, local live theatre, transition houses, food banks and so on- this is a "donation" on your part; they pay for the printing and distribution and BINGO- you have a credible piece of work for your growing folio.

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    He's just talking about charity / pro-bono work, which is different thing to spec work / working for a client who should actually pay you.
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    A valid point only awkwardly put.

    But for TL: DR, I´d sum it up with : start with emphazising on reputation and getting a web of contacts, gaining experience alongside, before emphazising on the money.

    Don´t yourself out for free for corporations but do charity stuffs (present yourself).

    (also, on a plus : interning/group charity stuffs will get you wealth of knowledge and heaps of contacts who know a guy who knows a guy, and if you´re a likeable, punchual, people person who delivers quality work, you´ll get recommended.. often it´s not what you know but who you know).

    TL: DR on the TL: DR -- don´t be a dick, or a moneygrubber, before you earned the reputation to be able to afford it.
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    Yup, pretty much that: most people see "work for free" ,and think "spec" rather than "pro bono".

    Which in itself is a rather sad reflection of the state of the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossi View Post
    punchual
    only you can make a typo like that, Mossi

    On topic, yes, I look at working pro-bono for charity work as a good thing.

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    Refer to Tristan's post above. Working for no money can provide benefits but only under certain circumstances. And it's far from a career booster, IMHO. Work on your portfolio before you start giving your work away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva K View Post
    only you can make a typo like that, Mossi
    Of course, dudette, I´ve gota repuation to keep
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