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    Worked on this today until my head felt like it was going to explode. I didn't blend everything together as well as a few others I've done, but I strangely happy with how it looks.

    On the terminators, they were kind of in odd places because of the glass. I have a separate pic showing where I think they are. That's assuming I understand what you mean (I think I do, it's just the area(s) that get neither reflected nor direct light).
    Let's do this.


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    Summer (my daughter) is back from her grandparents' and shows no sign of being ill at all ever since she threw up.

    Yay!

    I found my scanner today, along with my books.



    But I couldn't get the scanner to work on my computer.




    (But it does work on my husband's computer, so the show goes on . . . )

    Did some Bridgeman and also some Rubins (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/014...00_i00_details NSFW)--which isn't impressive really, just colored in bits with my colored pencils. It's a good supplement to Bridgeman though.
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    Let's do this.

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    YES! These newest drawings are full of win. I demand 100 pages!
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    Ey, you seem to be working quite nicely forward here

    And good job on the egg! Hehe, I tried one yesterday which certainly didn't go as well as yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat Kaminski View Post
    YES! These newest drawings are full of win. I demand 100 pages!
    That's not a bad goal actually. 100 pages of study. That would get me practicing quite a lot. . . . Plus if I did two or three a day I'd bang it out in no time. Probably not all Bridgeman (or maybe if I repeated it? decisions, decisions).

    Quote Originally Posted by Trixtar View Post
    Ey, you seem to be working quite nicely forward here

    And good job on the egg! Hehe, I tried one yesterday which certainly didn't go as well as yours...
    Well, to be fair, you did yours in a more difficult medium from what I could tell. Mine's digital, which means I can erase, paint over, undo, etc. pretty much freely.

    I'm going to take a closer look at your sketchbook later on today. I love your homemade sketchbook, it's awesome!
    Let's do this.

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    I would suggest flip-flopping between Bridgman, Loomis, Villpu, and life drawing.

    Just do a different one every day during the week.

    For example, Monday and Wednesday are Bridgman days, Tuesday and Thursday are Loomis days, and Friday and Saturday are Villpu days. To finish the week out you do Life Drawing on Sunday. This of course is just an example. Just do what's comfortable for you.

    Either way, I'm excited for you!
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    Thanks that's very kind of you

    But acrylics are paint-over-able... And definitely could have gotten the shape done better regardless *cringe* Hehe, well if you see my sb later then you'll notice that I have lots of such stupid errors. One of my fails is that I sit with my face buried down in the paper and don't notice anything.

    And still, pc's aren't that easy to use either regardless of layers and easy erase. Really, your egg is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat Kaminski View Post
    I would suggest flip-flopping between Bridgman, Loomis, Villpu, and life drawing.

    Just do a different one every day during the week.

    For example, Monday and Wednesday are Bridgman days, Tuesday and Thursday are Loomis days, and Friday and Saturday are Villpu days. To finish the week out you do Life Drawing on Sunday. This of course is just an example. Just do what's comfortable for you.

    Either way, I'm excited for you!
    I wish I could do this! I don't have any copies of books by Loomis and Vilppu, though. I can definitely put them on to "to get" list, but it's going to be a couple pay periods before I can afford to pick them up. (I used to have copies of the PDFs of Loomis's stuff, but when I heard that they had been reprinted, I deleted them.) I do have a book by Hale that I haven't really gotten into yet, and I've heard he's good. I suppose I could substitute another book for Loomis until I get ahold of some of his stuff. I've got a book by Hogarth, but I've noticed his stuff doesn't really look very good at all and I don't know that I want to trust what he teaches because of that. I'll be looking through my collection, such as it is, to figure out what I'll do. I think I'll post up a list of the books I have and pick from the list systematically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trixtar View Post
    Thanks that's very kind of you

    But acrylics are paint-over-able... And definitely could have gotten the shape done better regardless *cringe* Hehe, well if you see my sb later then you'll notice that I have lots of such stupid errors. One of my fails is that I sit with my face buried down in the paper and don't notice anything.

    And still, pc's aren't that easy to use either regardless of layers and easy erase. Really, your egg is great
    Well thank you I'm going to go post some more in your sketchbook now.
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    Really liking the bridgeman stuff keep it up.

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    Post more of the figure sketches! They're great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerpigking View Post
    Really liking the bridgeman stuff keep it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by jelmerschmit View Post
    Post more of the figure sketches! They're great!
    Thank you very much, to both of you!

    Just to make sure everyone's clear, these are copies of really really good drawings that are helping me learn anatomy. (If I tried to create something in Bridgeman's style, I'd probably have an aneurism and it wouldn't turn out well anyway at my current skill level. ) All encouragement is extremely appreciated and very helpful, of course, but I don't want to claim credit where it isn't due.



    Also, after looking through Hale's book I'm back to square one; it's really useful in the sense that I'll be reading it before doing my life drawing sessions, but copying stuff from inside would be too time-consuming to be worth it at my skill level, methinks.

    So, looks like I'll be sticking to Bridgeman until I can get some Loomis and Vilppu.


    This latest one took me a couple of hours. The thing about Bridgeman is that all of his work looks really random but is very detailed and all the details really matter. I'm trying not to copy every single detail exactly as it is (WAY too time consuming and fussy), but man . . . it's a challenge. On the plus side I can actually feel myself learning some anatomy while I copy, so yay!
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    Nice! This is the exact thing that you should be studying.

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94571 <--- here's a link to all the PDFs you might need. Some of them I believe are out of print in actual form, so the PDF will help very much!

    Good luck.

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    Loving the Brigdman! (His stuff is awesome!)

    As far as the glass ball goes -- glass is a little difficult to be picking apart so I don't think it applies in the same way I was talking. (Glass tends to distort light weirdly and doesn't work the same as a solid object would display the light. It's a whole different ball of wax. The terminator would probably apply more to a solid object instead of a glass one just because the light will fall evenly across it instead of it getting refracted/bounced around, if that makes sense?)

    If you decide to do 100 pages of Bridgman/anatomy, I'll try to take up that challenge with you so you're not doing it by yourself. I can do that in conjunction with the Master Study that I'm doing with Mat. Maybe we can set ourselves a deadline or something so that it's a challenge to get it done. (Nothing crazy unreasonable like having them done in a week or something, just so we have a goal in mind to try to meet.)

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    I take up the challenge as well if you guys are doing it ive never done bridgeman but I was gonna do him after loomis anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat Kaminski View Post
    Nice! This is the exact thing that you should be studying.

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94571 <--- here's a link to all the PDFs you might need. Some of them I believe are out of print in actual form, so the PDF will help very much!

    Good luck.

    And keep up the good work.
    Nice, will be looking through that archive more thoroughly on my next day off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riley Stark View Post
    Loving the Brigdman! (His stuff is awesome!)

    As far as the glass ball goes -- glass is a little difficult to be picking apart so I don't think it applies in the same way I was talking. (Glass tends to distort light weirdly and doesn't work the same as a solid object would display the light. It's a whole different ball of wax. The terminator would probably apply more to a solid object instead of a glass one just because the light will fall evenly across it instead of it getting refracted/bounced around, if that makes sense?)
    Yeah, it does make sense. I need to find a decent cylinder and do my next "from life/observation" study from that.

    If you decide to do 100 pages of Bridgman/anatomy, I'll try to take up that challenge with you so you're not doing it by yourself. I can do that in conjunction with the Master Study that I'm doing with Mat. Maybe we can set ourselves a deadline or something so that it's a challenge to get it done. (Nothing crazy unreasonable like having them done in a week or something, just so we have a goal in mind to try to meet.)
    It'd be great to have some buddies helping. Unfortunately 1 page per day is really pushing it for me. I've been getting to sleep around 10-11 PM most nights--I can't draw until my daughter is asleep (around 8:30 PM to 9 PM if I'm lucky; the time change has made things difficult) as there's no one else to watch her. This would be fine, except I have to get up at 4 AM to go to work. So I'm getting 5-6 hours of sleep a night, which is okay (enough), but I think pushing any harder is reallllly going to hurt.

    So I guess just a page a day?

    Quote Originally Posted by triggerpigking View Post
    I take up the challenge as well if you guys are doing it ive never done bridgeman but I was gonna do him after loomis anyway.
    Bridgeman can be really frustrating without some kind of anatomy supplement to go with his stuff--it's not usually clear what he's doing or why unless you have a way to understand the underlying anatomy. The best supplement I've found is Rubins's book on anatomy, which is cheap and easy to color on. (http://www.amazon.com/Human-Figure-A.../dp/0140042431) If you don't have any spare money then you might look for a website with the same information--this might be a good place to start: http://drawsketch.about.com/od/human...or_Artists.htm

    It doesn't have to be an in-depth study or anything. If you get the Rubin's book, all you need to do is pick a part, color it in with a colored pencil or crayon or whatever, and say the name out loud; go through the book and color in every other place where the part appears, saying it out loud. Surprisingly easy and useful. I've already learned the muscles "frontalis", "orbicularis oculi", "nasalis", and today, "temporalis"--all on the face. Takes about five minutes and is a good warm-up.



    Anyway, I've got this massive blinding headache right now, it's probably a tension headache cause I had a terrible day at work today. Someone passed us a ton of fraudulent coupons and possibly sent someone else to refund the items they bought, argh. Also I had an eight-inch stack of paperwork to catch up on. Not kidding or exaggerating, I got out a ruler and measured it and it came out to eight inches. That was before I looked up all the supplementary paperwork that went with it. I've still got about three inches left to finish. =/

    I'll probably end up redoing these drawings eventually, but the point is to draw, not to fret.
    Let's do this.

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