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    Still try to push the imaginbative stuff

    the first is a lame characyter attempt need to do more researchg to get ideas before I do these but seems when i get photo refs i just seem to end up cpoying and more then usimg it to drive my idea . Never used phot refs for imaginative work before i used to think it was cheating before i came on here so it seems to slow down my mental flow some how but i know its needed to bring much much more realism to my work.

    The second pic done this eve is a sketch for an idea, twop warriotrs facing off in a seculded bamboo forset, looks so clumsy i know but its get to get the ideas down compositions ect, hope to be abale to come back to this one day and do somthinh with some dramatic ligting to create some atmosphere in teh scne. And create poses that look natural lol.


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    Looking good! Especially your animal studies. Keep at it!
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    First of all I want to say thanks to asll the people stopping by my sketchbook and those leaving comments. Learning at home has it advanagtages you getto do what you want ect, but its good to get feedback from your peers and words of encourgament are so motivational.

    Here are some gesture drawings I have done today. Pickedd up a copy of michael hamptons constructive anantomy and it just seems easier for me to access then bridgeman or loomis altjhough I am now down talking either. hOWEVER on refelection I think Hamptons's apparoach is geared towards life drawing it gives you a way to look at the modelk and think throygh the body and appreaciate the things going on. He stresses building from the insiode out. Been useful for me as i have long been used to seeing the body as a set of contour libes wiythout thinking about all the structures.

    Only on chapter one which is all abour gesture drawing and thinking about weight and balance, these drawings are of photo refs of dancers from the net.

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    So its time to start studying hands

    decided to work through Michael Hampton's chapter in Design and Invention, first copied his shape formula for constructing the hand and then too a few of the illustrations in there and tried to reduce them to the basic essential shapes and then draw the contours again to help me further understand the principle. Be interesting to get people feedback on this approach or it anyone eles is working in this way. Not too pleased with the final out come I am really bad at drawing fingers.

    Not 100 sure how to use the Bridgeman, some people say copy, some copy memorize and duplicate???probably my ignorance but not 100 sure how copying some ones line work will help me to draw the hand from my imagination, but its probably because I am new to all this and don't fully understand all the principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ja1307 View Post
    Not 100 sure how to use the Bridgeman, some people say copy, some copy memorize and duplicate???probably my ignorance but not 100 sure how copying some ones line work will help me to draw the hand from my imagination, but its probably because I am new to all this and don't fully understand all the principles.
    To me it looks like one of your biggest weaknesses is that you seem to concentrate way too much to contour, and you don't seem to construct your characters/forms at all, so the Hampton thing is a step to the right direction. Though pay attention to the length and size of the fingers compared to the palm.

    As for Bridgman the copying part is to memorize how to draw it right (like say, drawing something 100 times correctly is better than drawing something 100 times wrong) and it can also train your muscle memory.
    Here's something about studying Bridgman:
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    Did a value study of a white cup and saucer, I know that the curved dimensions are off because I struggle a lot drawing circles and ellipses. Decided not to complete the rending fully as I had picked out the major values. Thinks it looks a bit muddled and maybe hard to read overall be interesting to get other peoples thoughts.Tried to get tonal variation by working with a 2H, 2B and 5B lead no sure if the outcome really works well.

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    TinyBird thanks for the feedback you are about me focussing too much on contour as this is how i have always drawn. Its only recently that I have begun to understand and address construction and i have a lot to learn. I shall be making much more of a concentrated effort to do this and break things down into shapes and simple forms. Thanks for the links regarding Bridgeman.

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    I like your faster and messy drawings more then the clean one's

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    Hey ja1307! Thank you for the insightful comments in my sketchbook.

    The recent gestures you've done are great. They really communicate the motion and liveliness of the dancers. How far have you gotten in the Loomis and Bridgman books before you started with Hampton? I'm looking into getting my first anatomy book (although I eventually plan to study all three) and was wondering which you would recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectGet View Post
    Hey ja1307! Thank you for the insightful comments in my sketchbook.

    The recent gestures you've done are great. They really communicate the motion and liveliness of the dancers. How far have you gotten in the Loomis and Bridgman books before you started with Hampton? I'm looking into getting my first anatomy book (although I eventually plan to study all three) and was wondering which you would recommend.
    Well to be honest I have tried to get into Loomis and Bridgeman but did not know the right approach to take but thats prob due to my own failings rather then the books. (Check out the links left by TinyBird) for me they make a lot of sense. I have just started to reading Bridgemans chapter on hands, and I would def recommend reading through the chapter before making studies for me thats the only way it makes sense. Hampton I like because he focuses on construction approaches which i think i really need to adopt to all of my drawing, plus it makes sense how to apply it to your work.

    I would say get a both if you can but i am no exert. Bridgeman definitely has more in depth info then Hampton but I also found Hampton has given me a way to deconstruct and make sense of Bridgeman I say they are all good. But classic texts are always classics for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiR View Post
    I like your faster and messy drawings more then the clean one's
    Really thats interesting, I also like messy looks to drawings when I see other achieve this look but seem to get to caught up in minute detail and think I end up over doing thongs and making them look a bit dead.

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    Some gesture drawings from last night, happy with how some turned out not so happy with most, feel like the mannequin figure captured what I was after the most feel like I am getting overly focused on capturing a likeness and losing the energy in the pose prob does not help that these are photo refd, I am sure this exercise works 100 times better when working from life.

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    Ok so this is the first page of my Bridgman hand studies I am taking a 3 stage approach as follows:

    1 after reading the chapter and relevant section copy the original Bridgman line drawing.

    2 Redraw the Bridgman study in my own style paying attention to the forms and shapes Bridgman is bringing our attention to with rendering.

    3 Redraw the same Bridgman study trying to break it down into basic shapes looking at where they interlock or overlap ect, proportions and masses, and trying to map out some of the basic planes to aid me in thinking about it in a 3 dimensional format.

    Not sure how great this methodology will prove to be but be interesting to get peoples thoughts on this.

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    Really trying to focus on breaking things down into shapes and thinking of forms in 3D rather then contours. Will be doing photo ref studies and life studies of various subject matter and just breaking them down to the essential building blocks

    Here is my first example: some horse studies

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    Here is one from the imagination was really lost with the musculature really need to do some studies, did not even attempt the face as I knew it would be a disaster going to do some separate portrait studies too.

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