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May 23rd, 2012 #31
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May 23rd, 2012 #32
This is my first attempt at digital painting decide to do a grey scale value study of the copied dwarf slayer line drawing
May 23rd, 2012 #33
May 24th, 2012 #34Registered User
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Some of those sketches are nice, you have a good eye for proportions but keep drawing through loomis and making anatomy studies. Draw a lot from life also!
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May 24th, 2012 #35
May 24th, 2012 #36
Hey nice stuff I think you should definitely keep doing the life drawings ,Loomis studies and photo studies but always remember to have fun and sketch some of your ideas down .some advice for u is to do some thumbnails or small sketches of characters and landscapes to help you formulate ideas and get them from the imagination to the paper and using references for your own designs to add a degree of realism is a good idea too , keep it up! -Finally an answer to what you were saying about life all fantasy art has its grounding and realism or "life" so things like lighting,textures,materials,perspective,color,etc are all in life so drawing and studying these things can help ground your imaginative works in reality along with studying the fundamentals like anatomy,perspective,color theory and so forth.studying real things can also help u develop your visual memory and help you create better artwork because you know how things work in life. Not sure if all that makes sense but ya Hope it helps
Last edited by blazingdimensions; May 24th, 2012 at 09:38 PM."Art is never finished, only abandoned." Leonardo Da Vinci
May 25th, 2012 #37
thank for stopping by and the detailed advice. yeah totally make sense about studying from life, I am beginning to notice so much more now around me as i am paying more attention. Thats really good advice about getting thumbnails down first and then doing research. I know I try and produce a final drawing too quick without ref and when it sucks i get frustrated and want to move on so I can see how that could help.
May 25th, 2012 #38
Ok so in an attempt to draw more from life and study light and shadow and work on values I decided to draw my kneaded eraser. Not sure how well this was pulled off feel like my rendering gets muddy. Think i need to find a simpler crisper technique.
Second pic is a photo ref of a mediaeval warrior, wanted to look at clothing and folds ect, def going to do some drapery studies and clothing. Also trying to work on my proportions. The hand holding the spear was a bit scary def need to knuckle down to some hand studies and up my work rate big time.
May 25th, 2012 #39
hey thanks for stopping by my sketchbook and for the advice
i like those last two and btw don't worry about getting stuff done fast right now, you become quicker with more practice.You have really good lines on all your work btw, i need to work on mine definately. the guy seems a little out of proportion but hes nicely drawn and a good idea. good lighting on that kneaded eraser too.do you photograph your sketches or scan em in?-my scanner sucks so i was thinking about photographing mine.
"Art is never finished, only abandoned." Leonardo Da Vinci
May 25th, 2012 #40
been scanning them mostly, earlier one were photographed which i actually think looks better as the scanner light distorts the tone of the graphite, seems to make the arks just look chalky.
wish the warrior was my idea..just a photo ref copy, I think he is out of proportion too which areas stand out to u?
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Re the warrior: his legs definitely look short to me. The thigh is usually two heads high, while the calves are usually 1 and 1/2 heads, with the last 1/2 head being the ankle and foot. Leg length used to give me a little trouble because I always thought I was drawing them too long and overcompensated. I do really like your line quality, though.
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May 25th, 2012 #42
Bodied thanks for that, I can now see what you mean, I have not really studied anatomical proportions at all. I could see something was wrong just could not tell what exactly so thanks I now know something eles I need to work on.
Gosh so much to learn.
May 25th, 2012 #43
Really like your pencil sketches.
But at the last picture (the first thing) I was thinking about, what you drawed :>
(After I must read the description and then: "Ahhhhhhh...." xD )
Then I must say, that I love, how you use shading. I'm not good at it
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May 25th, 2012 #44
Some stuff i have been working on over the last few days some okish some just plainly sucks
First pic are figure photo ref studies second and third are figure studies from the imagination and the results are not so good.
May 25th, 2012 #45
The next lot are as follows
portartait of christian bale from American Psycho
Wildlife: wanted to practice drawing fur, fairly pleased with the result
Studies of Michangelo's David
May 25th, 2012 #46
Still try to push the imaginbative stuff
the first is a lame characyter attempt need to do more researchg to get ideas before I do these but seems when i get photo refs i just seem to end up cpoying and more then usimg it to drive my idea . Never used phot refs for imaginative work before i used to think it was cheating before i came on here so it seems to slow down my mental flow some how but i know its needed to bring much much more realism to my work.
The second pic done this eve is a sketch for an idea, twop warriotrs facing off in a seculded bamboo forset, looks so clumsy i know but its get to get the ideas down compositions ect, hope to be abale to come back to this one day and do somthinh with some dramatic ligting to create some atmosphere in teh scne. And create poses that look natural lol.
May 26th, 2012 #47
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May 26th, 2012 #48
First of all I want to say thanks to asll the people stopping by my sketchbook and those leaving comments. Learning at home has it advanagtages you getto do what you want ect, but its good to get feedback from your peers and words of encourgament are so motivational.
Here are some gesture drawings I have done today. Pickedd up a copy of michael hamptons constructive anantomy and it just seems easier for me to access then bridgeman or loomis altjhough I am now down talking either. hOWEVER on refelection I think Hamptons's apparoach is geared towards life drawing it gives you a way to look at the modelk and think throygh the body and appreaciate the things going on. He stresses building from the insiode out. Been useful for me as i have long been used to seeing the body as a set of contour libes wiythout thinking about all the structures.
Only on chapter one which is all abour gesture drawing and thinking about weight and balance, these drawings are of photo refs of dancers from the net.
May 27th, 2012 #49
So its time to start studying hands
decided to work through Michael Hampton's chapter in Design and Invention, first copied his shape formula for constructing the hand and then too a few of the illustrations in there and tried to reduce them to the basic essential shapes and then draw the contours again to help me further understand the principle. Be interesting to get people feedback on this approach or it anyone eles is working in this way. Not too pleased with the final out come I am really bad at drawing fingers.
Not 100 sure how to use the Bridgeman, some people say copy, some copy memorize and duplicate???probably my ignorance but not 100 sure how copying some ones line work will help me to draw the hand from my imagination, but its probably because I am new to all this and don't fully understand all the principles.
May 28th, 2012 #50
As for Bridgman the copying part is to memorize how to draw it right (like say, drawing something 100 times correctly is better than drawing something 100 times wrong) and it can also train your muscle memory.
Here's something about studying Bridgman:
May 29th, 2012 #51
Did a value study of a white cup and saucer, I know that the curved dimensions are off because I struggle a lot drawing circles and ellipses. Decided not to complete the rending fully as I had picked out the major values. Thinks it looks a bit muddled and maybe hard to read overall be interesting to get other peoples thoughts.Tried to get tonal variation by working with a 2H, 2B and 5B lead no sure if the outcome really works well.
May 29th, 2012 #52
TinyBird thanks for the feedback you are about me focussing too much on contour as this is how i have always drawn. Its only recently that I have begun to understand and address construction and i have a lot to learn. I shall be making much more of a concentrated effort to do this and break things down into shapes and simple forms. Thanks for the links regarding Bridgeman.
May 29th, 2012 #53
May 29th, 2012 #54
Hey ja1307! Thank you for the insightful comments in my sketchbook.
The recent gestures you've done are great. They really communicate the motion and liveliness of the dancers. How far have you gotten in the Loomis and Bridgman books before you started with Hampton? I'm looking into getting my first anatomy book (although I eventually plan to study all three) and was wondering which you would recommend.
May 29th, 2012 #55
I would say get a both if you can but i am no exert. Bridgeman definitely has more in depth info then Hampton but I also found Hampton has given me a way to deconstruct and make sense of Bridgeman I say they are all good. But classic texts are always classics for a reason.
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May 29th, 2012 #56
May 30th, 2012 #57
Some gesture drawings from last night, happy with how some turned out not so happy with most, feel like the mannequin figure captured what I was after the most feel like I am getting overly focused on capturing a likeness and losing the energy in the pose prob does not help that these are photo refd, I am sure this exercise works 100 times better when working from life.
May 30th, 2012 #58
Ok so this is the first page of my Bridgman hand studies I am taking a 3 stage approach as follows:
1 after reading the chapter and relevant section copy the original Bridgman line drawing.
2 Redraw the Bridgman study in my own style paying attention to the forms and shapes Bridgman is bringing our attention to with rendering.
3 Redraw the same Bridgman study trying to break it down into basic shapes looking at where they interlock or overlap ect, proportions and masses, and trying to map out some of the basic planes to aid me in thinking about it in a 3 dimensional format.
Not sure how great this methodology will prove to be but be interesting to get peoples thoughts on this.
May 30th, 2012 #59
Really trying to focus on breaking things down into shapes and thinking of forms in 3D rather then contours. Will be doing photo ref studies and life studies of various subject matter and just breaking them down to the essential building blocks
Here is my first example: some horse studies
May 30th, 2012 #60
Here is one from the imagination was really lost with the musculature really need to do some studies, did not even attempt the face as I knew it would be a disaster going to do some separate portrait studies too.