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    Help! Landscape painting, color theory, and digital painting techniques?

    Hope this is the right place to post this!

    I've been attempting to practice landscape/environment painting, and with that I realize that I need a better understanding of color theory.. and maybe even some digital painting techniques that professionals use. I'm at the stage where I suck so bad at environments and color that I generally want to quit early on because it's so frustrating.. but I know quitting only leads to NO IMPROVEMENT. lol

    Could anyone give me some advice? Techniques? Books? Dvds? Videos? ImagineFX articles? Useful brushes?

    I use Corel Painter 12, the scratchboard tool, and a blender.. every once in a while pulling out the oil brush. I'm sure any kind of brush can be applied to any program.. what would you recommend? Whats your workflow for painting?

    I'm unsure of how to go into great detail on any of my pieces also..

    I'm working in black and white first because I'm not confident enough to work with color AND value at the same time.. though I don't want to continue like this for much longer. If I do continue like this, how can I work on the value and then use layer modes to add color into that? Seems like I use layer modes and the colors don't match at all. Should I just go over the black and white with more saturated colors slowly?

    Here are a few of my recent studies.. I kind of feel like I'm hopping around blindly until I get something right, and I hate it.



    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bDLOvRmjZy...osemitebig.jpg


    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vGVGty7AzV...ctureFEB29.jpg


    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...emarch3rd2.jpg


    Some of the resources I've been using are:
    Practical Light and Color by Jeremy Vickery
    Color Theory: The mechanics of Color with Richard Keyes
    This ImagineFX tutorial from Issue #31 on the subject of colour!
    And I've frequently watched these Feng Zhu videos.. lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCmz3XuS6TI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy9MMdzbWcw

    Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!

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    Well Some things I can recommend not on your list.

    James Gurney, Color and Light http://amzn.com/0740797719

    Jason Manley http://theartdepartment.org/streamin...-theory-of-art

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    For colour theory, try Colour and Light by James Gurney (reviewed here) followed by my website, especially the section on principles of colour.

    For digital painting, http://www.ctrlpaint.com/.

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    Oho its Meat!

    While I am always surprised by the amount of good digital artists who actually paint over their value study with colour and overlay layers, I do not advocate the process myself. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with doing it its a technique choice, but in my opinion its a tedious trial and error practice that does not always bear desirable results. (Desaturated flat colours, etc) again, just my personal choice; I was actually doing it a few years back myself.

    The greyscale value study should be just that, a study. Either keep it aside for a reference or paint over it completely. I think your landscape thumbs look pretty good, don't overthink it Meat, get the Gurney book, check out his painting technique (and Briggsy's website!) and dive right into some colour values.

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    Well since no one else said it I will. Get outside and work form observation. You can't learn about something as complex as color and environment painting sitting at your computer or reading a book. While the suggestions will help you in a supportive role you need to have real world observations as a foundation or the theory is worthless. The veracity of any theory comes from observation. The only way to observe environments is to go to nature; photos and books won't get you there alone. All successful professional artists from Feng to Jason Manly to Nathan Fowkes recommend working from life, especially starting out. The longer you delay painting from life the longer you delay really learning how to paint.

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    I second, third and fourth dpaint's comments.

    In addition to the Gurney books I highly recommend:
    "Drawing Scenery" by Jack Hamm - for environment composition
    "Carlson's Guide to Landscape Painting" by John Carlson - as the template around which most other landscape painting books have been written.
    "Alla Prima" by Richard Schmid - on everything else.

    My other advice would be to research and study great landscape painters, such as:
    Clyde Aspevig
    Carl Rungius
    Edgar Payne
    Matt Smith
    Joe Paquet
    Maynard Dixon
    Frederic Church
    Thomas Moran
    etc...

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    Hello, i have show your landscapes very nice i found. i work with corel painter too how you make the hills and generally your environments draw technique ? what you use for a brush ? About your question painting environments. look all this parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3hP...eature=related


    and the master itself on her home http://www.noahbradley.com/

    look on store he have nice art tutorials.

    Greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contac View Post

    and the master itself on her home http://www.noahbradley.com/

    look on store he have nice art tutorials.

    Greetings
    Did I miss something, Noah is a She-He?

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    Learning new things about myself all the time.

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    Hey the master itself is presented here today. Nice ! How you are Noah ? I will pay all your tutorials next month. About your Books: I have show any books on oil painting but how i can apply this techniques on digital ? I have painter and photoshop, its difficult to practice traditional to digital. sorry for my english. cheers

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