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    Promoting?? blogs, website, forums??? books, art, finding work, etc...

    Hi all!
    so i'm about to start promomiting my artwork and really trying to connect with the world,
    or rather get the world connected with my art!

    I do have my page on deviantart, so I can forward people to that,
    but I want more (and that feels a little unprofessional/impersonal for some reason). I'd like to have a place where regular people outside of the da commmunity can check out my piece that I finish (and AS i finish them!). I'm not a huge fan of blogs,
    but it seems like that might be an acceptable format,

    so i'm thinking about wordpress, blogspot etc.
    What are some other ideas you guys could throw my way?

    I really want to get some feedback, and a feel for how people respond to my artwork.

    I have a lot of projects on the horizon that i'd like to share with people and it would be nice to already have a bunch of stuff online that can draw people to the more hardcore work.

    BASICALLY I guess i'm looking at marketing/promoting,

    what do you think?
    of course i'm coming out witih my own personal portfolio site,
    but id like a collection of online presences that can draw people in and get comments/feedback/etc..

    thanks!


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    Theres lots of ways to get your work out there...You can get a blog, post your work to folio sites like illustrationmundo.com, hireanillustrator.com, , here, etc. (depends on what industry you want to work in), also you can get a twitter and tweet your updates and network, you can research and get together an email list of potential clients and send out links to your work, do community activities at various websites, make video tutorials on youtube or write tutorial articles on your blog or for guest posts, etc.
    Also a great way to get feedback is to start a sketchbook on here in the sketchbook forums, or other art forums out on the web

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    Depends what kind of publicity you're looking for...

    For a professional online presence you need your own site, of course (as you already mentioned.) And a blog is good too, if you can keep it updated - doesn't really matter tremendously if you use Blogger or Wordpress or something else for it, a blog is a blog is a blog... (Though Wordpress is more flexible than Blogger, and seems to be kept more up-to-date.)

    For the general public, I suppose there's Tumblr and Pinterest (everybody and their dog has a Tumblr now...)

    If you want to sell prints to the public at large, there's Zazzle and RedBubble...

    A potentially classier site than DA is Shadowness.com... (I don't know much about it but they seem to be similar to DA but with less tolerance for rips and porn... Or so they claim.) Another site that seems maybe similar to DA but with a professional focus is Behance.net (I don't know much about this one either...)

    For networking, there's places like here, , CGTalk, the ImagineFX forums, ArtOrder, etc. Having a presence on all the relevant boards and communities can't hurt.

    I would NOT use DA for showing off your work professionally (unless you just use their portfolio widget...) Frankly, it doesn't have a great reputation... But it's fine for connecting to certain non-professional audiences (especially the younger crowd...)
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    I use blogspot as a website, but I also have an actual blog under two projects using a similar theme to tie them together. You can play around with blogspot to remove post dates, sharing buttons and add separate pages to make it work like a website, you don't have your own domain but its simple and easy to maintain and looks better than deviantart.

    The way I made my portfolio was creating a new blog, then creating several pages, and adding a widget called 'link list' which links to those pages.

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    i found behance quite useful, its easy to get going and has generated quite a few leads, so overall was worth doing..
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    Velocity is right about Behance. It is great and the ProSite (isn't free) is really clean and easy to set up.

    CarbonMade is ok as well.
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    DA´s potential i have seen recently is with the clubs and groups, you submit something or get feature in one and next day is on ten more and all over. If you also have a tumblr, twitter and behance featuring your stuff its a good starting point.

    For example, From a group about fantasy art on Da it might then get featured in a tumblr about fantasy illustration and so on so on and people and with your links and name right there it all goes back to you.

    Its not that much professional networking but is people looking at your work. If you have stuff to show there is no shortage of ways for it to be seen.

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    A note about carbonmade.. you cannot enlarge images, at least on the free version, this bothered me quite a bit. And if you're looking for a place where people can comment, that wont work. Blogspot and tumblr (maybe wordpress?) let anyone comment without an account so I recommend those.

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    I like Deviantart because of its potential for exposure. One doesn't get much work there but a lot of fans if you do good work (and/or fanart), and take advantage of the groups. Frankly I'm not sure it really has a bad reputation; plenty of professionals use it as their portfolio. Sure, there's loads of crap, but just don't let any in your gallery and you'll have a fine portfolio.

    Tumblr is great too - if you have work that you can tag with popular tags a lot of people will easily find it, and the more it's reblogged the more it's seen. You can reach many people that way! Also, some of the free templates are really nice and professional looking; I wouldn't hesitate showing my tumblr blog to clients.

    I like the other mentioned websites as well. Having a facebook fanpage probably doesn't hurt either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maidith View Post
    Frankly I'm not sure it really has a bad reputation; plenty of professionals use it as their portfolio. Sure, there's loads of crap, but just don't let any in your gallery and you'll have a fine portfolio.
    The problems with using DA as your professional portfolio are...

    1. People who aren't logged in see whacking huge ads next to your art (and the ads can be extremely cheesy...) This is pretty lame for a portfolio.

    2. There are actually people who think DA is some kind of porn site just because of the name, so that can be a turn-off, depending on who you send there...

    3. If they happen to go to the front page, they'll see gobs of fan art, softcore corn, and porn-fanart... (And an endless stream of ponies...) This... Does not look good professionally.

    4. Unless you want to turn comments off on everything, you'll have lord-knows-what comments under all your art... Not something you really want in a "portfolio". Fine for a blog-type-site, not so great for a professional portfolio.

    So, while it's fine for exposure and great for connecting with potential fans of your work, it really isn't ideal as a professional portfolio site that you'd want to send potential clients to.

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    yeah I always felt alittle embarassed to be showing my work via deviantart to non deviantart people...

    definitely trying to get something better.
    thanks for all this info though! very inspiring and I think I have a good idea of how to proceed.

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    I'm not an artist so I can't talk about what you should put on your portfolio, but from a website point of view, I'd say go for an own website.
    It is really cheap, I mean you can get server-space for 10 bucks a year, and domains aren't that expensive either. If you use wordpress etc., make sure you have an own domain rather than wordpress.tads_little_artcorner.com. As an outside observer I find that tristanelwell.com and theartofkerembeyit.com sound much more professional. In fact, I have only visited both sites twice and I already remembered the URL.

    And stick to css. Javascript for nice gallery effects yes, but GOD PLEASE stay AWAY from flash.

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    I just have to say this tickled me.

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    Whoops... That would be the result of typing on a mobile device...

    But it's such an accurate description of what's popular on DA, I think I'll leave it. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    The problems with using DA as your professional portfolio are...

    1. People who aren't logged in see whacking huge ads next to your art (and the ads can be extremely cheesy...) This is pretty lame for a portfolio.

    2. There are actually people who think DA is some kind of porn site just because of the name, so that can be a turn-off, depending on who you send there...

    3. If they happen to go to the front page, they'll see gobs of fan art, softcore corn, and porn-fanart... (And an endless stream of ponies...) This... Does not look good professionally.

    4. Unless you want to turn comments off on everything, you'll have lord-knows-what comments under all your art... Not something you really want in a "portfolio". Fine for a blog-type-site, not so great for a professional portfolio.

    So, while it's fine for exposure and great for connecting with potential fans of your work, it really isn't ideal as a professional portfolio site that you'd want to send potential clients to.
    Their portfolio section doesn't have any of that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineris View Post
    Their portfolio section doesn't have any of that stuff.
    I know, that's why I mentioned earlier that I wouldn't recommend using DA as a portfolio unless you're using their portfolio widget...

    But for long-term, it's still probably better to get your own domain and set up your own portfolio site if you can, because the DA widget is a little limited (especially the free version.) I mean, it's pretty nice, great if you need a basic portfolio right away, just not ideal if you ever want to start really customizing things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordLouis View Post
    I'm not an artist so I can't talk about what you should put on your portfolio, but from a website point of view, I'd say go for an own website.
    It is really cheap, I mean you can get server-space for 10 bucks a year, and domains aren't that expensive either. If you use wordpress etc., make sure you have an own domain rather than wordpress.tads_little_artcorner.com. As an outside observer I find that tristanelwell.com and theartofkerembeyit.com sound much more professional. In fact, I have only visited both sites twice and I already remembered the URL.

    And stick to css. Javascript for nice gallery effects yes, but GOD PLEASE stay AWAY from flash.
    Yeah I just got my domain name (its pretty nice but i'll lyk what it is when i'm ready to go live with it haha).

    I think i'm going to have a main website that links to my porfolio, a blog, DA, and a photo site I have. should be sweet.

    what's wrong with flash though?
    I have a photo site thats really nice and clean and simple but its flash?
    it will show up if you only have html though.. just doesn't look as nice.

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    Eh, I have a Flash site currently that I need to revamp with something non-flash as soon as I get the time... :/

    The biggest problem with Flash sites is of course that they don't work on all mobile devices, so you need an alternate version, which is not really efficient, and makes it harder to do updates and changes...

    Another problem (one that I've been finding is a nuisance) is that you can't send people to a specific image or page on your site, and people can't bookmark or link to a specific page either. This might seem minor, but after a while it gets to be a pain.

    Though a lot of complaints about Flash sites come from the fact that many of them are too flashy. Or take too long to load. Avoid anything with animated intros and distracting sound and other junk that takes away from seeing the work...

    (Ironically I built my site in Flash because at the time most of my work involved making Flash sites one way or another... So it seemed like good advertising at the time. Then right after I launched it, Flash sites started to go out of style. Such is life.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    Another problem (one that I've been finding is a nuisance) is that you can't send people to a specific image or page on your site, and people can't bookmark or link to a specific page either. This might seem minor, but after a while it gets to be a pain.
    It's not minor at all, this is probably ADs' #1 issue with flash sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    It's not minor at all, this is probably ADs' #1 issue with flash sites.
    I fully agree that it's not a minor consideration, having by now realized what a pain in the butt it can be...

    But when you're setting up your site, it can be all too easy to overlook that factor... You get all caught up in considering how it will look and how to navigate it and what to put in it... Bookmarkability gets lost in the shuffle.

    So yeah. Don't do what I did. I think I'll go learn PHP or something and revamp yet again. Blargh.

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    Promote by getting press in magazines and newspapers. I'm always trying to get press anywhere I can in the arts section. I do demos for art leagues and schools and other venues. Keep a library of print ready images just in case someone does want to do a story or blurb on you. Usually they will call at the last second and ask for a print ready image. I can't tell you how many times in group shows or paint outs my painting ends up as a picture with the article online or in print because most artists are too lazy and disorganised to have stuff ready to go, on demand.
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