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February 29th, 2012 #1
Hello! I'm currently working on a zombie mermaid (well, drowned merperson to be exact) and I'm looking for critiques. Does the anatomy look okay so far? How's the composition right now? What about the perspective? This is way, way different from my usual stuff, so any help/feedback would be awesome.
I still have to shoot some lighting references and make everything more zombie-like but I just thought it would be easier to get the anatomy/perspective/composition down first and then deal with all that later. Thanks for looking!
Last edited by AboveClouds; April 13th, 2012 at 06:14 PM.
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March 1st, 2012 #3
Well, I don't know if it's really my place to say anything since this is just a trade, but I had real trouble figuring our the viewpoint in the image. I mean it looks like we are on the deck level, but there's no horizon and I mistook the stuff on the background to be water, as if we were looking down to the side of the ship, and the tail hovering there enforced that. Also on personal note I might say that having a the viewpoint from above would work better from the "o hai I'll just look over the ship board--HOLY CRAP" mood, as if you yourself were looking down, and not randomly laying on the deck.
If you want to go with the low viewpoint, I might change the creature so that it has dragged itself more to the deck to show more of what it is.
March 1st, 2012 #4
By the way, I looked at my original gesture sketches and found this:
It wasn't very dynamic so I scrapped it, but do you think it would work better? I could move the mermaid's head/outstretched hand more towards the viewer. It just seems like it would be a better pose since the tail is 100% visible (instead of being hidden behind the body like in a hanging pose). What do you think?
March 27th, 2012 #5
Sorry I haven't updated in a while. The boat idea wasn't working for me, so I decided to start over. The new picture has the same sort of pose/theme as the old one, but I'm a lot happier with it.
Anyway, the rocks are based off of some real rocks I collected. I'm gonna take some photos of them later tonight to use as refs. The straight lines in the sketch are from my perspective grid; they won't be there in the final (the final piece will be lineless BTW, but I've left the lines here for anatomy crits).
What do you think of it so far?
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I think it's good that you've decided to go with the original sketch as it shows the concept more. In the viewpoint on the other option you couldn't see the fish head at all. I'm assuming the fish is dead as well. Pretty crazy and interesting concept. Maybe consider having his hand reaching towards the viewer. Head seems a little large.
March 31st, 2012 #7
Okay, here's another update. I'm not sure if I should refine the rocks any further or keep them looser like they are here. :/ I guess I'll decide after I finish painting the water.
March 31st, 2012 #8
Some more reference and realism for the fish perhaps? Even if the fish is just sketchy at the moment the style clashes with the rest of the picture, as is a lot more stylized and a lot less realistic then everything else.I have no intention of becoming a professional artist, I just aspire to become a really good amateur.
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April 2nd, 2012 #9
Anyway, I was only going to resketch the fish, but I ended up finishing it instead (well, mostly finished it anyway). The newest update is below.
Still gotta work on the water...
Last edited by AboveClouds; April 2nd, 2012 at 01:17 AM.
April 2nd, 2012 #10
That is pretty cool, I have never seen a mermaid with a fish being his tail.
I would recommend a more moody background with fog, abandoned ship parts, more details.
The rocks are a bit.. vanilla?
April 2nd, 2012 #11
Hm, I don't know but I really don't like the picture- despite the fact that I like the idea, and the set-up.
--note: this looks like a paintover but it is not, it just looks like one. I don't know how to improve the picture but I hope to get you some ideas ---
There are too many things that confuse me and keep distracting me (aside from the lines around the muscles and the hair).
Here is what I found:
All the pink lines are places that confuse me. I don't understand how exactly he is lying on the rocks, he seems to be on top, slightly to the back? What happens with his left hand? And the rendering of the fish tail makes it look straight-on, but I think you meant to retract it slightly? Try to make it out of boxes, as I tried (ha ha!).
I don't understand the reaching out. He is lying on the rocks, why would he reach out? The first pose with the arm down made more sense to me. It looked like he was spying on prey, or getting ready. Now it is sunbathing in rage.
I also enlarged the canvas and increased the contrast because I felt it was too straight-on and muddy.
Hope to be of help somewhat~
April 2nd, 2012 #12
Now that is a fish! Awesome! But one of the problems isn't quite fixed. The flopping fishtail is at a weird angle, that don't look natural.I have no intention of becoming a professional artist, I just aspire to become a really good amateur.
Sketchbook: w176 love of the color dirt
April 8th, 2012 #13
Sorry I haven't updated in a while. I'm... sort of losing interest in the picture. I appreciate all of your feedback, though!
Anyway, my newest update is below. The water is supposed to be murky, muddy, and filled with algae, but I'm not sure if I rendered it correctly. This is the first time I've painted water, so I probably messed up a lot of stuff.
-Finish the body already. Those damn lines have been around long enough.
-I'll probably add some distant trees in the fog. I really want to keep the background simple though, so they'll be foggy silhouettes if I do decide to include them.
-Add some fog billowing over the water.
-The tail reflection is too clear/clean. Fix that.
-I want the mermaid/fishtail to be the focal point, but I'm not sure if I've made it too bright for the rest of the picture. What do you think?
-Show farther hand's fingertips peeking over the edge of the rock.
-Put some algae on the mermaid, especially in his hair.
April 8th, 2012 #14
when I look at the image I just see a gangly dude getting eaten by a fish while crying for help.
April 10th, 2012 #15
Sorry that the hands aren't done yet. I'm getting to them!
By the way, should I add color to this or does it look better in greyscales? The thumbnail called for a lot of creepy, swamp-like greens everywhere, but the greyscales are growing on me. What do you guys think?
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