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    Graphic designers are ruining the web

    Been saying this for years, but of course, lots of people think I am just old-fashioned... :-)

    Graphic designers are ruining the web

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    Yes graphic designers are ruining the web, the arrogant teenagers, trolls, furries, and the jersey shore demographic are really whats bringing up the zeitgeist.

    After reading blah blah more complexity leads to more time to fetch "who ha" that's a shocker.

    Anyone else think the term "Graphic Designers" was used a bit negative here, unintentionally?
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    Let's think back to Geocities and have a moment of sanity. Sure it SEEMS like the nostalgia bus is going to take you back to Norman Rockwell-land, but there's orange plaid bell bottoms and jello salads with mayonnaise and canned peas back there too.

    Do we really need to go back to these? DO WE?
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    Ads are ruining the internet more. Better yet, designer advertisements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineris View Post
    Do we really need to go back to these? DO WE?
    Many of them suffer from precisely the same thing so many modern websites suffer from: too much clutter, so that it is extremely difficult to find the information you need. Some of them I actually like precisely because they are simple and straightforward.

    A prime example: denley.com. Never mind now that I have no idea who he is and have no interest in him or his activities. Suppose I did have. I find his site through a search engine. On his home page, six simple links, no clutter, no flashing bits and pieces all over the place that distract me. That is how I like my websites.

    Here's an example of an existing site that had already been up in those old days and sensibly decided not to change its format:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/

    Simple, no clutter, easy to read, and contains tons and tons of information.

    Compare it with, for example, the ARC's site, which is now so full of clutter and flashy bits and pieces that I seldom go there anymore, despite the fact that on the whole I like their art and their philosophy. It has just become all but impossible to navigate.

    Here's one with a similar collection of art that is vastly easier to navigate (although it does have aspects I don't like all that much):

    http://www.wga.hu/index1.html

    It's not that the modern web is all bad and everything from the "good old days" were better. There is plenty of pretty cool stuff on the web now that we did not have back then - Wikipedia is one example (and its site, incidentally, is also very simple in design and layout). Also, thank you Jesus, most modern sites are blessedly free of frames.

    But boy, when you have a cap on your data like I do, and despite a fast connection find that a site takes five minutes to load, and then crashes because you first have to go download a gigabyte of plugins before a pointless 50 Mb flash presentation will load that you have to sit through before you can get to the information you want, which then turns out to be hidden somewhere among a thousand blinking lights, then I long for the days of Geocities...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineris View Post
    Do we really need to go back to these? DO WE?
    OMG those are so bad.

    Honestly, I love modern web design and respect the hell out of web designers. Given 100% creative freedom most designers will choose minimalism... it's the clients you have to wrestle with.
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    Graphic designers may be ruining the net because they aren't webdesigners?
    -But they get hired for a web-job?

    But maybe it will be easier now if people slowly switch from Flash to HTML5/Canvas. -It has a Z-axis too
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    I, for one, welcome our new graphic designer overlords.


    (For the reasons mentioned above.) (And likely below.)
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    *shrug* I think the internet looks a lot better now. Deal with it.
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    If internet was text only, I wouldn't be using it much. I love the visual aspect of it.

    What many sites suffer from is the lack of a good design.

    Don't most browsers still have an option to reject uploading graphics???
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    Quote Originally Posted by vineris View Post

    Do we really need to go back to these? DO WE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    Many of them suffer from precisely the same thing so many modern websites suffer from: too much clutter, so that it is extremely difficult to find the information you need. Some of them I actually like precisely because they are simple and straightforward.
    If you want to blame anyone for the clutter on a website, more often than not blame a marketing person. I've seen plenty of marketing people push web designers to keep putting 'stuff' on a page because the notion of negative space or areas to rest the eye is so alien to them they can't comprehend it. "Why do we have that patch of white in the corner? WE NEED COPY THERE!"

    We all know how this goes - rarely does one get to actually exercise their common sense with this stuff, instead being at the whim of the client who feels that yes, they DO need Flash and colorful graphics and loud sound effects and everything else in the bag.
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