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February 13th, 2012 #14
It is expensive Artpotion, very expensive. Even more if what Conniekat says about not being able to apply for help is true.
I don't know much about it, but I'm guessing it's that expensive because the people who are teaching are very skilled and already have some fame in the industry. I'm just guessing, I'm not sure, I don't even know who the teacher's are.
eh it's true, I went to college here in Toronto and the semesters were around 1250 to 2000 dollars. I thought it was like that in all of North America, I didn't know that studying in the United States could be so expensive. Although maybe universities are equally expensive?
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Yea, but don't things in Canada, like a Snicker bar, cost more than in the US, except for the tuitions?
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February 13th, 2012 #16
umm...maybe...maybe yes, since we do have high taxes to pay. A lot of people here in Canada complain about the high taxes.
I personally don't mind the taxes, because they go into what it's needed, like free health care.
Stuff like sneaker bars, are more expensive I think because they're imported (I think, Sneakers are made in the US no?) same with books that are made or printed in the US cost more expensive, it depends on the book but it's usually around 10 to 20 dollars more expensive. The James Gurney books I bought were around 30 dollars here, and I think they sell them for 25 in the states.
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February 13th, 2012 #17
I can go to the best art school in the country for a little over $5000 a year, and that includes health and dental.
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February 13th, 2012 #18
lol if we're going into a healthcare debate you won't hear me arguing. Healthcare is a joke here, plain and simple.
But on topic, yeah I'd say Community college around my area is in that price range, not a university though. But I've seen a lot of community colleges that have even more amazing teachers than some universities. Although the teachers in Art seem to shift a lot, here for a few semesters gone the next. Financial aid would be nice if you can get it. I don't have that luxury sadly from complications :/
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Community college here in CA is $35 per semester unit (At least in my areas, don't know if it's uniform for the whole state)... so at 15 units that about $500-$600, and for double that for a full year... $1200. That doesn't count books and supplies, just school tuition.
For the price, some of the art foundation classes they offer are great, and transferable to other schools (if your portfolio passes their standards, in addition to a good grade).
February 14th, 2012 #20
ArtPotion I am not sure where your from but in the states a semester is around 4.5 months for fall and spring. with a break during the summer. I'm not sure how TAD does the division of classes but I would pretty much guarantee that they don't go a full straight 12 months at a time. My guess is that they do 4 months in the fall, 1 or 2 month break, 4 months in the spring, and then you can elect to do more classes in the summer.
My guess for costs is that the legal side of running things might cost a lot here in the states, regardless if online.
There seems to be a good, good number of instructors so it probably cost more to have a verity of instructors in-place of just a few.
I believe there are real world components, POD's setup in various locations for students to work together.
I would also guess something to do with being eligible to receive scholarship money or such???? and on that note if it is out of your range then apply for Scholarships.
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February 14th, 2012 #21
A: TAD tuition has been as low as 22.5k for the full five semesters and there are a number of tuition packages available.
B: TAD offers interest free financing...ie ZERO percent interest.
C: TAD has on ground programs in Austin, Kansas City, and Richmond and does workshops twice per year.
D: Half of the entertainment 3rd (now 4th) semester 2d students are already working on major titles including the top MMO on earth right now.
E: The first three TAD graduates were restricted from participating in the Society of Illustrators annual student competition and so they entered into the professionals program, taking the Gold, Silver, and best of other category awards. The top advertising illustration awards in the business.
F: TAD has given more than 1 Million in scholarships so far to students of merit and many have attended for free, half or quarter rides. Some of the half ride winners paid up front to get the discount and got the full five semesters for 11,250.
G: TAD pays its faculty as they should be paid, not the offensively low salaries teachers get paid elsewhere. My mother was a teacher, so is my sister, and I see the world as one where teachers should be well paid.
H: Here are a list of the speakers coming to TAD (less than 50 of the 100 who are coming). Find me an art school with this level of commitment to student exposure.
TAD charges about 1/3 of what it costs to go to art school elsewhere in the US, when compared to the 130K tuitions at Ringling or even more at Art Center, which is also a 2.5 year program.
We have done all we can to lower the cost of education and improve quality...
Oh yeah..the list! Any one of these people can make entire careers.
JOHN STEVENSON: CO-DIRECTOR- KUNG FU PANDA
ALEXANDER SEROPIAN: FOUNDER- BUNGIE and WIDELOAD GAMES, FORMER PRESIDENT, DISNEY INTERACTIVE
JEFF BRAUN: FOUNDER OF MAXIS and FORMER PRESIDENT OF EA
CAREEN YAP:VP of LICENSING AND BIZ DEV - KONAMI
JAY DEE ALLEY: DIRECTOR OF PRODUCT DEV.- CAPCOM
KEITH BOESKY: PRESIDENT OF BOESKY AND COMPANY (also Mel Gibson's former agent, and the ex President of Eidos who launched Tomb Raider)
LORNE LANNING: CO-FOUNDER- ODDWORLD
SHERRY MCKENNA-CO-FOUNDER- ODDWORLD
MEGAN GAISER: CHIEF CREATIVE STRATEGY OFFICER-HER INTERACTIVE
HEATHER HAZEL: SENIOR PRODUCER- POPCAP GAMES
CHRIS AVELLONE: LEAD DESIGNER/OWNER- OBSIDIAN ENTERTAINMENT
J.E. SAWYER: LEAD DESIGNER-OBSIDIAN ENTERTAINMENT
STEVE BOKKES: LEAD DESIGNER- SONY ONLINE
JOSEPH OLIN-FORMER PRES. ACAD OF INTERACTIVE ARTS AND SCIENCES
BILL DUGGAN: AUTHOR- STRATEGIC INTUITION
JOSEE LALUMIERE: GM NEWBREED VFX (Transfomers)
MARIO WYNANDS: FOUNDER- SIDHE INTERACTIVE
MARSHALL VANDRUFF: EDUCATOR- THE ART DEPARTMENT
JEFFREY T. MAKOFF: SENIOR PARTNER- VALLE-MAKOFF LLP.
JEFFREY ROSE Esq. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY ATTORNEY
ODED PALLED: CEO- ROCKET NINJA
MILES THOMPSON: MEDIA PUBLISHER
RAJESH RAO: CEO, DHRUVA INTERACTIVE
JASON DELLA ROCA-GAMES CONSULtANT=FORMER HEAD OF IGDA
SEAN KAUPINNEN- CEO, IDEA- GAMES INDUSTRY BIZ DEV GURU
TIM DONLEY: CREATIVE DIRECTOR- THQ/VIGIL GAMES
BRIAN REID: FOUNDER & CREATIVE DIRECTOR-OSIRIS
JOHN SCHINDEHETTE: SENIOR ART DIRECTOR, WIZARDS OF THE COAST
This is just the initial list from the 100 people presenting, doing keynotes, giving talks, reviewing work, and participating in greenlight pitches. And this list is on top of the faculty list we have working daily too. More info here for those not in TAD (TAD students have this included in their tuition). https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green...98897506830896
I hope that answers some questions. We really are doing our best and we did this because we felt other schools were not only doing a poor job, but were far too expensive. We will continue to offer what we feel is the best possible education we can.
Thanks for all the points...and yes TAD does pay for CA and keeps this site open for you all.
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February 16th, 2012 #22
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Depending on the school, you'll graduate with something like 60-80 hours of major specific classes (with another 60 or so general education courses). That's about 2 years of school at 4 semesters of 15-20 hours, which is a full-time course load (or, like, 5 3-credit hour classes per semester). We were told that for every hour you spend in class, you should spend 3 hours doing homework for that class every week. So, if you take 5 3-hour classes per week (total 15 hours) then you should plan on doing 45 hours of homework, projects, etc. There were probably a couple of weeks where I hit that, but generally I didn't come close. It was more likely a 1 to 1 ratio, where about 30 hours a week were spent in class or on homework, on the down weeks, and that's being generous. And let's not even broach how much of any of that is spent sober for the average college student.
In a 2-semester system, you'll spend about 30-35 weeks in school per year, including finals week. Depending on your schedule, you may take classes every mon-fri, but I managed a semester where I only had classes on tuesday and thursday, and a monday evening class. I think I only had classes on friday for 3 semesters. The amount of downtime a student can manage is astronomical, although it's not a prudent use of time or money.
All that to say, if you can't fit a typical 4 year education into 2 and a half year time frame, you aren't trying.
February 16th, 2012 #24
Wow jason thanks so much for answering the thread and my question! Yeah I guess a lot of art schools are even way more expensive. I know you guys do a lot, and from your explanation it sounds like you've tried hard to cut costs, and you prices are quite competitive when compared with other art schools.
I dont blame TAD for my inability to afford to go to art school lol, I just don't think I could afford it right now =(. Soo i guess ill just work on it myself while I try to get into a position to afford it =).
I took two years of classes at a local university in florida 12cr per sam, pretty good school. I did very well but the classes were just too boring really, mostly gen ed courses but even in the art classes or psych classes I took the classes were zoo hmm, non-interactively.
Well I guess ill do some math, see if I can find a way to afford it ^_^.
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Comments from Dan Dos Santos may be of help
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