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    If cephalopods were hats. ***New piece added 1/15/12

    Just a silly idea that was a lot of fun to bring to life. In this world cephalopods are stylish hats! Created in photoshop.

    Thanks for looking!

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    Composition is all over the place. I have no idea where to look. Evidently the most important thing in the picture is the reflection of his forehead.


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    clearly you can draw and render, I think it would help this image out if you moved the background "back". to create some seperation between the figures and the wall. Right now it's alittle busy.

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    Thanks for the critiques.

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    Made me laugh great story telling piece, and reads well too

    thumbs up from me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
    Composition is all over the place. I have no idea where to look. Evidently the most important thing in the picture is the reflection of his forehead.
    If that's where ZombieMariachis wanted us to look then it's a very good composition...

    It's about a guy entering a room, rang for by the lady. Therefore the forehead appearing into the mirror is an excellent echo of that idea. A witty and unexpected aliteration of the central theme.

    I agree with Phil Moss. I think it's a great little picture.
    A bravo from me!

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    thats my kind of alternate dimension.

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    Pretty brilliant, I think. It has a quirky vibe and stomps on the generic. Not bothered by composition or technical issues, I'll take a creative attempt at something fresh and interesting over that any day.

    To me it seems the only "image" framed on the wall without cephalopod in it is his forehead. I don't know if that's part of the idea, but if it is, that's nice depth.

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    I think the concept is pretty brilliant too. That's why the execution is so frustrating. I really want to like it, but it just makes me itch.


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    All I can say is cephalopods should be worn, not eaten.

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    Thanks again everyone!

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    In fact, the composition is what really makes this (apart from the sense of colour which is wonderful).
    Notice how the imagined sound of that tinkling bell takes on the form of that pheasant picture just below it like its coming out of it, onto the octopus plate, and turns into the smell for rhe old guy's approaching nose.
    Brilliant!
    A dinner bell turning into a sound pheasant wobbling into a stinking octopus assailed by a beaky nose.
    The red curtain allterates this and the old guy's arm echos it. The other pictures look on.

    One of the best works I've seen on these boards...

    Mr Tristan, this one's meant to make you itch!

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    Neat stuff, great detail!
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    It's great! The composition does feel a bit weird on first sight - it looks like it's cropped from a bigger painting - but it's still awesome. Real good rendering and I love it when there's humor in a picture, too

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    the problem for me is the background isnt acting as a background. its just as light as the foreground and has many details spread in a fairly uniform density. the butlers collar and the background wallpaper are almost indistunguishable where they meet. i also dont quite undnerstand what the red cloth above the buters head is. is it part of a four poster bed? if so how can we see it behind him? he must be kneeling on the bed for it to be visible. great concept, but im with Elwell on this, at the moment its a bit confusing and that drains its impact. maybe darken off the backdrop for starters.


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    Thanks again everyone for the comments and critiques!

    I darkened the background a bit. If I get some more time to work on it I may try some other adjustments. This one may just have to be one of those learning experiences and I'll try to do better next time.

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    Here's another piece I just finished today.

    Wizard type guy summoning/reviving a broken artifact creature.

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    that new piece is fantastic!
    and the darkened off squidhats looks better too
    great work!!

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    I'm agin Velocity here...
    The darkened version loses it whole raison d'etre.
    And I ain't too keen on the Wizard piece. For precisely the reason Tristan didn't like the first peice!

    Sorry to confuse you Mr ZombieM...

    That said. I like the imaginative depth to the Wizard piece, it's personality, if you will - the way it gets past some of the shackles of the familiar fantasy tropes.

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    Haha, thanks Chris and Kendall. I'm glad the wizard painting managed to avoid the 'controversial' issues that squid-hats has. This is an excellent lesson to anyone watching that steps should not be skipped in the creative process unless you are an illustrator god, which I am not...

    Squid-hats started out as just a speed-paint of the old man carrying the octopus. Everything else was built around that without too much planning.

    Lesson learn. Squid-hats probably should have stayed in the sketchbook.

    The wizard guy on the other hand had due respect given to each step in my 'process.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieMariachis View Post
    Haha, thanks Chris and Kendall. I'm glad the wizard painting managed to avoid the 'controversial' issues that squid-hats has.
    Sorry, Mr ZombieM, I'm afraid I worded my post a little ambiguously. And confused things even more!
    My bad.
    I've amended my post just to clear things up...

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    Squid hats should definitely NOT have stayed in the sketchbook, it's a great image - I know this will sound like heresy to the illustrators out there, but textbook composition and planning doesn't always make for a good image - infact it can at times produce predictably bland work that only other illustrators appreciate.. which is a dangerous world to be involved in!! We have to remember that other artists are not our clients.
    It IS right to pursue perfection in all the technical aspects of illustration, but I think narrative and charm trumps technicality every time. The squid hat image has narrative and (i think) is particularly well put together.. perhaps not the standard book cover or card art that most images (including all of mine!) online portray, but it would make great editorial illustration for the fact that there's so much to look at, all of it tells a story, and all of it's linked together. I could see that in a light hearted article about fashion trends, the 'emperor's clothes' phenomenom and such like

    Or maybe we're all just reading too much into a piece of work you did just for fun

    Where are the squid hats in the second image ?

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    Yeah, I'm with Bennett and Moss here. Art is about evoking a meaningful emotional response within the viewer and not about academics. That's not to say that academics should be disregarded, but far too many artists focus solely on technical side and forget that creativity and originality are beyond a fixed set of rules, and things don't have to be a certain way to be effective.

    These two pieces are a good example. The wizard piece is neat and reasonably well executed, it is correctly put together, and adheres to the common standards, but yet it is a million times less effective and memorable than the octohats. Even people who are hung up on the composition will remember the octohats far past the time the wizard is forgotten.

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    I love both the squid piece and the wizard piece. But the squid piece is excellent. When I looked at it, I saw the butler, the bell, then I felt like I had double vision due to the forehead reflection which made look closer, then my eyes went to the squid on the tray and tried to understand why I was having double vision again (awesome) and I then noticed the backgrounds, which surprised me and made me laugh out loud.

    It's hard to surprise the viewer and the first one does it perfectly. The darkened one makes it JUST ANOTHER IMAGE WITH A SPOTLIGHT. And although that may work (something I am trying to shake off m'self) it doesn't always work and it's boring. Excellent work, genius even. Kudos!!

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