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    Super happy with direction so far. What do you think?

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    Your reference images for this?

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    NFL shoulderpads are horizontal, not vertical...aren't they? Football players always look like they're wearing one of those bucket-carrying yokes.

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    His feet look tiny compared to the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    Your reference images for this?
    Pose Reference:
    http://videogamewriters.com/wp-conte...tlefield-3.jpg

    Clothing/Gear References:
    http://helmet2helmet.net/wp-content/...nes-drew-2.jpg

    http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/2bRZw...ice+Jones-Drew

    http://images.maxpreps.com/site_imag...6_original.jpg

    http://nfldotcom.files.wordpress.com...ams_080921.jpg

    http://www.footballbabble.com/images...67005f38_0.jpg



    Quote Originally Posted by Stoat View Post
    NFL shoulderpads are horizontal, not vertical...aren't they? Football players always look like they're wearing one of those bucket-carrying yokes.
    Check out the fourth link under Clothing/Gear Reference.. They are pretty flexible.

    -edit- The link isn't working for some reason, here's another one.. Also, they're are supposed to be QB shoulder pads, more flexible for throwing.
    http://teamsales.eastbay.com/images/...e_w/1025_w.jpg

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    His feet look tiny compared to the body.
    Yea, wow didn't notice that. Really haven't made it down there yet though, but ty anyways.

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    His left arm looks bendy/broken
    Yes, that arm has been kinda driving me nuts, definitely going to fix it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billakong View Post
    Okay, that might be a good reference to pay attention to the wrinkles in the shirt. Yours is pretty heavily overwrinkled considering that there isn't that much twist going on in the upper body, and the lower part of the shirt is almost wrinkless. And as I mentioned about the lack of twist, even with a twist that would cause more wrinkles like that, they generally have places where they start and end (in a case like that it probably would be around the hip/waist and shoulder), but these wrinkles seem to be hovering solely on one side of his chest.
    Also the way the shirt is rounded over the one hip makes it look like the whole hip is cocked outwards very oddly.

    And like mentioned, I'd add more dynamic twist to his body, since he is moving. Right now his other leg isn't really farther back than the other.
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    Good advice. I already spent more time on the wrinkles though.. lol, so I'll have to go back and take some of them out.

    There was another reference I was using for the wrinkles, can't find it, and it was a player standing still and his shirt was very wrinkled, because he had been running..

    Anyways here's what I did for now, gotta go to work.

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    The structure of the shoulder pads is wrong. American Football pads have plastic piece that arches from the Pecks to the scapula. This means most of the padding is on the top rather then the side. (google for pictures.) The two flanking shoulder pads you have drawn should be smaller and cover less surface area. The bottom of the shoulder pads shoudln't go any lower then the bottom of the breasts, unless the player is wearing rib cage padding.

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    Redid his shirt, made his left leg longer, started shading his right arm. I think the leg extension makes his movement more convincing, what do you think?

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    More work done on arms, hands, ball. Slight adjustments to left leg (shading)

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    Almost finished.

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    The shoulder pads need a lot more work. football pads have a plastic arch that extends from the pecks to the scapula that protects the top and front of the shoulder. Your pads have almost no padding on the top (where there should be the most). The arch you drew is to much on the side.

    The pads on the side of the shoulder shouldn't be as big. Those pads also don't cover as much of the arm as you have them. They don't cover any more area then the deltoids.

    The bottom of the shoulder pads shouldn't be any lower then the xyphoid complex on the chest. It appears you have them down as low as the stomach.

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    Is it just me or do his arms and lower legs look too short/small? The upper half of the left leg looks curvy in places it shouldn't. Also, that right arm looks way too small to me. It also doesn't look like his wrist is attached correctly (the angle of the hand doesn't quite match up to the angle of the forearm). And the linework of the helmet doesn't really match the lineless-ness you have going on all over the rest of the drawing.

    I see pretty good improvement from image to image, but I recommend some more re-working. You're really close!

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