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    Really trying to grasp pectorals. Things are a lot less confusing now as I can see the problem before than as the arm comes up the sternal portion of them actually inserts at the front of the humorous not tucked in underneath where the bicep is. Thanks for getting me to give it another look Diarum.

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    There doesn't seem to be enough time in the day for my study. How do you people deal with this? do you just get faster and more efficient with everything as you get better? It takes me a while to king of get my brain working in that 'mode'
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    Those latest pectoral studies look better - more 3 dimensional. When your doing those muscle studies remember they're not flat shapes, they have bulk.
    Learning to construct the whole form will help you rotate things and move stuff around better.

    Also, try not to get tunnel vision. If you spend 95% of your time studying the torso you'll have a pristine greek god body, with weird chicken legs and snowman arms lol.

    As for the cartooning, skull studies and perspective stuffs will really help you get the characters on model.
    You did a great job on that clay jobby on page 1 - Cartooning in pencil is related to sculpting, you have to think of the bulk of the form - relate the features to the perspective of the form.
    With the Hamster it's a sphere, Gotta make sure to relate the features to the center of the sphere.

    Keep up all the hard work Mr. and happy sketching

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    Just trying to understand the main abdominal mass and how it deforms

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    Thanks for the advice Rhubix, I really appreciate it, I need as much as I can get. I am currently thinking to myself that I am not thinking in 3D with a study then it wasn't worth doing.

    I definitly need to do some skull studies sometime and get some Vilppu study going for that 3D thinking. Also need to start applying this to full body studies as you say .. man need more time there is never enough time!

    Also your correction for Rhino is great!! Thanks!
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    Looking good man!
    Keep it up the good work

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    Love the sketches Whirly! Keep it up!

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    Gaining more confidence with chest now

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    looks good. I'll be updating a lot of stuff tomorrow!
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    More gestures and Disney fun.

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    Was all ready for some torso sculpting fun and decided to do a quick skull warm-up sculpt. Didn't take too long .... and then I spent ages trying to get a good render of it! ARGH! stop wasting time!!

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    Had to do this dam thing twice. When I finished it first time it crashed on saving! AAARRGHH!

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    Hope it doesn't look too rushed or at least I have my origins and insertions slightly better than totally wrong.
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    Looks good, But the clavicle on both looks weird. I don't think they go up THAT high. And the lats looks weird, looks cool, but the lats and serratus magnus aren't technically correct. The Serratus Magnus connect to the ribs(Yours looks like they are just out there by themselves, and have no connection to the ribs), and should be closer (not much) to the abs. It's almost like you have the chest and then a pit then the lats, with the Serratus Magnus connecting the two, which isn't how the body is formed. Hope that made sense.

    The armpit is in the wrong place or to big, to the left/right of the pecs looks off also, it a really weird depression you have going on, and normally that shouldn't looks like that. It's like you have a space behind the pec and that is causing some problems. I think if you fixed the rib cage, and connected everything properly it would solve a lot of the problem with the armpits. Hope it helps! posting later today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diarum View Post
    Looks good, But the clavicle on both looks weird. I don't think they go up THAT high. And the lats looks weird, looks cool, but the lats and serratus magnus aren't technically correct. The Serratus Magnus connect to the ribs(Yours looks like they are just out there by themselves, and have no connection to the ribs), and should be closer (not much) to the abs. It's almost like you have the chest and then a pit then the lats, with the Serratus Magnus connecting the two, which isn't how the body is formed. Hope that made sense.

    The armpit is in the wrong place or to big, to the left/right of the pecs looks off also, it a really weird depression you have going on, and normally that shouldn't looks like that. It's like you have a space behind the pec and that is causing some problems. I think if you fixed the rib cage, and connected everything properly it would solve a lot of the problem with the armpits. Hope it helps! posting later today.

    Well that's disheartening .. all makes sense and is correct though thanks for all the crits they are very helpful.

    Need all the crits and comments I can get, its what drives me forward.
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    Good glad that will help you push forward!
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    More application of my torso anatomy studying
    Done pencilly, done sculpty this time painty (From Ref)

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