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    realism in the dark

    i completely forgot all anatomy to do this and had no base sketch, i mean whats the point when its a complete monster anyway?

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    actually this should have been put in finally finished i reckon.

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    nah maybe not, i thought i was feeling lucky, but the anatomy attempt didnt work out as well..

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    Boost the contrast and define more forms because its not reading at all, its a little too dark.

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    In which one? they are supposed to be dark anyway. I realize the man sketch isnt as good as the monster, he needs to be defined more for sure.

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    I don't think you really listen to the critiques you get.
    It's called rendering.
    Look into it.

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    whatever

    I did this just to show you what can happen if you just add some detail...no where is this even near perfect and I know I changed the features some to suite me....but anyways these are my thoughts......feel free to do with them what you will
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    it was better before...

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    I aught to teach you a thing or two about "subtlety" something you obviously have no idea about... the eyes are completely lit wrong, the pupil looks like its painted plastic. terrible job.

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    Hm, this looks nowhere near finished to me. It still looks to be in a rough blocking in phase. Perhaps that was what you wanted? And actually the man sketch is more successful than the monster one (I can barely make out any features in the first one at all). If you told us what you wanted to achieve we could tell you if you have achieved it or not.

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    It's too dark.

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    what are you tryin to achieve here? because i have to say im with everyone ele, it looks like you painted this at like 200 x 300 pxl and then blew it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunts View Post
    I aught to teach you a thing or two about "subtlety" something you obviously have no idea about... the eyes are completely lit wrong, the pupil looks like its painted plastic. terrible job.
    Quite typical behavior here, if someone's being critiqued you're the one who gives asspats instead and apparently when you get critiqued yourself you can't really deal with it either. Even if his paintover wasn't very helpful, the least you can do is appreciate his efforts.

    As for your art, I can only second everyone else and tell you to up the contrast and quality. Also use reference when you're unsure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhune View Post
    Even if his paintover wasn't very helpful, the least you can do is appreciate his efforts.
    I second this. Don't be an asshat.

    Check out the misc section on this guys site: MV

    He also has a sketchbook here on CA. You could learn a few things from his art even if the lighting is more intense than you want, he does a much more convincing job of rendering things in the dark.

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    Again I ask why wunts was unbanned.

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    Oh dear here we go again!!

    Wunts mate! people are tying to help and show you or rather tell you what they can see in the image. The paintover was a good attempt at trying to bring the image out and make sense of it.
    Dont be too hard on the guy because I'm sorry mate but the thing is too dark to see and make out what its supposed to be. This section is also the place to put work of this quality buddy, because its definately not finished when you cant see it or make it out.

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    you are painting the Jack the Ripper story from old London Town, during a fog, when the gas lamps were out and the victim see's the killer from the light of a glowing cigarette!

    All the very best for the new year old boy, and I hope you begin anew in the new year with enthusiasm and references!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunts View Post
    i completely forgot all anatomy to do this and had no base sketch, i mean whats the point when its a complete monster anyway?
    Believability.

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    So I like where you were going with the first one, but your lighting is a bit wonky. Things like placing the specular highlights in the direct shadows, the muted tones of the highlights, etc. Needs polish.

    As to the topic, "realism in the dark"... it is a nice idea but conflicts with your "forgot all anatomy for this one" statement.

    Could be pushed to be a better "mood" piece, but right now it would not stand out in a crowd. Check the link LAG suggested. It has some nice examples of believable low light portraits.

    Also, as to your critique demeanor, you might want to give this thread a read. I posted it a few years ago regarding how to approach a critique from both the side of the artist and the side of the one giving the critique.
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=145590

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    Cheers Bai Fan, I hadnt seen that one, I was only aware of Jeffx99's critique prose, maybe we should ask for them to be joined in the same sticky you raise a good point or two as well.

    all the best for the new year mate.

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    They're not realistic but they are dark.

    As for giving receiving crits graciously? Absolutely. It goes both ways and I get just as annoyed when people give crits in an arrogant manner as I do when people cant take them.

    It's not about the person, it's about their work. And it's not about how much the critter knows, it's about what needs improving/fixing in a piece.

    But yeah, all that human ego/personality issue aside, if all this Wunts guy wants is back patting or to showcase his work, why not just post it in a sketchbook thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candra H View Post
    if all this Wunts guy wants is back patting or to showcase his work, why not just post it in a sketchbook thread?
    He has a SB and he said he would stop bringing stuff here last time but he seemingly can't stand it. {English tenses are my weakness, I hope I'm understandable at least.}
    I can't say anything new as far as he stick to his moderately new beloved "it's so vague it tricks the brain" style, he can't fool us with it anyway and being an artist doesn't mean to find the easy effortless way out, there's no such one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiNIN View Post
    being an artist doesn't mean to find the easy effortless way out, there's no such one.
    seconded.

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    Wunts......your the best.......I did that in a few minutes did one eye and flipped it over.....but still feel free to paintover anything I have posted.....as I always say these are just my thoughts do with them what you will.....I know that I have many things to learn that is why I continue to study and draw and read as much as I can.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiNIN View Post
    He has a SB and he said he would stop bringing stuff here last time but he seemingly can't stand it. {English tenses are my weakness, I hope I'm understandable at least.}
    Your English is fine and understandable to me. Heh, I'm not too averse to mucking around with it myself and it's supposed to be my only language.

    I didn't know that about him saying he would stick to posting in a sketchbook. Maybe he got lonely and came back in here for the attention?

    being an artist doesn't mean to find the easy effortless way out, there's no such one
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    I know that I have many things to learn that is why I continue to study and draw and read as much as I can.....
    I agree with both of these and it annoys me when people go around playing at their art and thinking it's okay not to put any effort into learning and studying. What drives me mad is seeing people lazily churning out art saying they just did it in five minutes and didn't bother with any base structures or anatomy etc, while people like me struggle for every line and angle and spend years grafting out the learning process.

    Kind of makes me wonder about human nature sometimes...

    Anyway, I should be off doing my own work so after my second rant of the day, I'm bowing out of this thread.

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    Sorry to do this, but it is time to direct attention back to the art in question.

    OP, what are you wanting us to critique on these? Lighting and anatomy specifics? Concept? Technical issues? Creature design?

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