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    Seeing The 3D Forms

    I haven't learned to see yet and most of the advice I've found on the site for beginners is "to study anatomy" yet that seems too complex for me right now as I'm in the symbolic drawing stage. To draw the figure correctly from what I understand, you need a solid knowledge of perspective and I've only just started to draw cylinders & cones decently in perspective. So alongside that I've been doing about the first half of Betty Edwards excercises without the picture plane along with some hand studies, drawing 3D forms & still lifes, but my improvement looks marginal. I still draw solely from contours, yet I've been told to draw the 3D forms instead but I'm not sure how to go about doing that. When I'm practicing my 3D forms (mainly spheres & boxes), I draw "through" them, so is that helping me develop the ability to see these forms so I can construct real objects with them? Or am I just missing the picture totally here and not focusing on the right stuff for someone at my ability?

    I managed to persuade my mum to get me Drawing Essentials & several other art books as my Christmas present and I got myself Keys to Drawing as well to help guide me further with my observation drawing. I haven't been drawing for long either (since the start of October) so I can understand why progress may be slow, but I just want to start learning to see because it's the first step and from there I can incorporate other things into my studies and broaden my understanding of the fundamentals without overwhelming myself with stuff like anatomy just yet.

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    What really helped me in learning 3D drawing and drawing the figure is Glenn Vilppu's book and videos. The videos are a tad boring but extremely helpful to see how he actually develops forms and draw through the anatomy.

    His method uses cross-contour and box construction but made it very practical. What I notice is some sources will have you draw box people or 'hurricane people', those are good exercise but those system have too much construction work to actually use outside of just practice. What's different about Vilppu book is that he give you a good idea on how to integrate it into the way you normally draw.

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    You've been doing this for less than three months. Be patient. Keep working. What you're essentially doing is rewiring your brain. It takes time.


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    Maybe this will help you

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    Here is a great video by concept artist's own Matt Kohr breaking down objects into simple forms. The website is full of great art information, check it out.

    http://www.ctrlpaint.com/home/2011/7...ying-form.html

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    Learning to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Maybe this will help you
    I loved that course!

    "Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."
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    Loomis's "Successful Drawing"?

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    Enrigo: I didn't know Vilppu made videos so I'll check them out. And I've neglected his book a bit lately so I'll get back to that too. ^^;

    Elwell: Alright, I'll stick at it.

    Dpaint: Thanks! Exactly what I've been looking for! Just wanted something to guide me a bit.

    BlueHabit: I've seen that before, I just needed a few more examples. I'll watch it again and take a deeper browse through the site though.

    Charlie D: Thanks for the link!

    Arenhaus: I'll continue working from that too.

    Thanks for the help all! Time to get right back at it.

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    You almost forget how hard it is to break that first simple threshold of drawing between pure flat figures and stickmen to actually showing some form.

    I just remember watching old PBS shows in the 90's that showed how to draw cubes, or pyramids and found that fascinating as a kid.

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