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December 14th, 2011 #1
Dave's Sketchbook, learning to learn
EDITED: I started working and it is hard for me to find time to just draw but I try my best and I will try to keep this updated, thank you SO much for your feedback and critics, these forums are one of the best places I've ever been in.
Btw, I changed the thread's thumbnail because I love my humble egg.
Hi there, folks from
I'll be brief (this is about drawing, not talking): My name is Dave and I am a expat Spaniard living in the UK. So far I know almost nothing about Art and I'm studying a degree which is not even related to it (I'm doing English Language). However, I enjoy drawing as to forget the passing of time whenever I give it a try. I've always felt that there's something of beauty and magic within me and I'll do whatever it takes to be able to give expression to it. I borrowed Figure drawing for all it's worth by Andrew Loomis and started studying by myself several months ago. That's it. I really hope you can criticise my humble attempts and correct me throughout this long journey.
Last edited by DaveGarcia; November 8th, 2012 at 06:37 AM.
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The charcoal sketch of the girl from behind is a good start, as for the others, I think it would be beneficial to do your studies slightly larger.
Great to see you starting up a sketchbook! If you can, I would highly recommend you attend some life drawing sessions, fantastic for learning and meeting other artists.
December 14th, 2011 #3
The problem about the girl portrait is that I used a model as a reference (photograph) and I want to be able to draw from imagination, so it doesn't have much merit : / Thanks for the advice, I'll try to make them larger once I'm confident enough (right now I'm scared and my lines are shaky and awful).
As for the classes...good god that would scare me to death. I haven't ever studied art or anything related to it XD
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The last two look really good! I think you should definitely start by working from reference - it's definitely important to work from imagination too, but i would say working from reference is SO important in the beginning and you build up your knowledge of how the body looks, works, twists, etc. Then you can take bits of what you learned from reference and put it in your drawings from imagination. (:
And you can find art classes for beginners! I took one at the art museum close to me, once a week we would go and sit in one of the galleries and draw something there. Very low stress, no homework, it was a lot of fun. I would recommend looking into it! Keep it up!
"the world is full of magic things, patiently waiting for our senses to grow sharper." - w.b. yeats
sketchbook. comments/advice appreciated (:
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More sketches on human figure. Just used reference for a couple of them, still trying to create the form without looking at anything. Tomorrow I'll try to use both techniques, looking at the reference for just half a minute and then trying to draw it.
December 16th, 2011 #7
More sketches on the human figure. I used some references this time but no in the usual way. I just looked at them for 30 seconds in order to get the basic shape and changed their pose as I drew. As neonndreams said, this is better than just trying to imagine the whole image.
January 10th, 2012 #8
I've decided that I want to try to be (obviously, someday in the future) a conceptual illustrator, I love concept design, I think it wonderful and beautiful. I know I've got such a long path ahead, but I am determined.
Although I'm studying English Language at the moment, I've divided my days so that I can study and "study" drawing as well, at least 2 or 3 hours a day. I'm following Andrew Loomis for human figure and head, and Perspective Made Easy for foreshortening, environment and stuff. looking forward to keep posting here!
Here are some sketches on human heads
January 10th, 2012 #9
Hey, that's great that you're reading Loomis; it's a great place for a figurative art student to begin. Echoing the previous comments in this thread, in order to create believable images, you need to study and understand how the world around you works. Study Loomis, study photo refs, and don't forget that you can use yourself as a resource as well. Draw your face, your hands, your feet, find a full-length mirror if you can and draw yourself drawing, whatever. I would also like to recommend drawing everyday objects from life - that will push your ability to observe and recreate a variety of 3-dimensional shapes in perspective. Keep up the good work!
January 10th, 2012 #10
I'll try to upload more drawings asap, once I've finished some papers for uni
January 11th, 2012 #11
Dierat, I answered to your comment but it says my message needs to be aproved, I don't know why it lasts that much time. Anyways, thanks a lot for the encouragement, I'll try my best in order to learn how the world works, it fascinates me =)
Here are some more sketches from imagination on heads and figure, I started the chapter where Loomis talks about planes, I do understand that everything is made of planes but can't really understand how light affects them, I need to study hard : /
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Thank you very much for your words, I'll try MY BEST, whatever it takes
January 11th, 2012 #14
The short version is: if the light is aiming directly at a plane (as in, the ray of light and the plane are perpendicular to each other), that will be the lightest plane on the object. As the planes turn away from the light, they become dimmer.
January 11th, 2012 #15
Dierat, I'll keep on asnwering without quoting until I reach those 10 messages so that I've got no problem Thank you for the explanation, I'm about to finish a literature essay. Once I've done I'll fling myself into light and planes again =) Let's see whether I can get the hang of it.
January 11th, 2012 #16
Hi Dave, welcome to CA! High five for English majors doing art on the side, I'm in the same boat.
http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html I found this link very helpful in understanding light/colour but there is a lot of information there. It's sort of photoshop-based but much of the information is relevant regardless of the medium.
January 11th, 2012 #17
I'm studying this degree in Spain (currently in England as international for a year) and we've got no major-minor system there I wish I could've done that, I wouldn't suck this much at drawing by now. Anyways, I aim to work as a translator or teacher while I try to afford my studies on art. I'm glad you find literature as amazing as art, that is really beautiful (just finished an essay on The Picture of Dorian Gray, awesome rendering of the role of art in man's nature).
Ok, let's get down to it. I'm gonna read both links you guys showed me. Let's see what happens
January 12th, 2012 #18
I've been a bad boy : / I tried to make a test from imagination but wasn't able to read and study those links so it sucks a lot, I'm just starting to see the form of things but I absolutely need to study how light affects different surfaces. Bad, bad, bad. I won't do it again
January 12th, 2012 #19
Hey there, don't be so hard on yourself. You tried something, it didn't really work out the way you had planned, but you learned from the experience so it was worth it.
At this point, my advice is to try to keep it simple and work from life. Drawing simple objects from life is a great way to train yourself while learning about how objects and shapes exist in space. Also, keep in mind that the human body is a complicated piece of machinery made up of lots of little moving parts and strange shapes. I wouldn't recommend trying to learn to draw and learn about light and learn to draw the human body all at the same time. Start simple, develop a foundation, and work your way up.
January 12th, 2012 #20
Hey man!Nice start!Keep on experimenting
January 12th, 2012 #21
Dierat: you're right, everything we do is worth it. I wasn't focused this morning and did not really try hard. I 've been through a bad momento these days and I can tell the difference when my mind is clear and empty: all goes with the flow. I'll go back to basic shape and movement, that is dead right. Gonna do a bit right now, actually
Izene: thanks a lot man! I will
January 12th, 2012 #22
Ok, I followed Dierat's advice and stopped trying to understand light. I need to focus on figure and its different gestures until I can easily draw every single pose (I'll try to add anatomy little by little as I draw gestures). I went too far with the first drawing, I was experimenting again with form
January 14th, 2012 #23
More pratice on human figure, this time I went back to the basics, I'll have to forget about lighting until I kinda control figure and gesture properly. I tried to experiment a bit with form in the 1st drawing. There's much to be done yet
January 14th, 2012 #24
You can't possibly seriously think that this even qualifies to enter a competition of the worst sketchbook ever!?
Seriously, you have studies of people here in various postitions that I wouldn't even dare get started on yet :p
Respect for challenging your comfort zone-boundaries, you'll be awesome!
-The drawings of the girl and the landscape are already very good looking in my opinion
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January 15th, 2012 #28
I am SORRY about the quality of these scanned pages. I don't really know what happened, I think it's because I worked out and finished these while I was waiting for the shower to be empty, I was dreadfully sweating and the paper did not stand it XD
Anyways, I am very happy with these studies. Now I understand how an elbow and a forearm work and that's helped me a lot. I also uploaded one study on perspective and vanishing points. I am following Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling, it is reeally good but a bit hard for me from time to time.
January 16th, 2012 #29
Again, sorry about the quality of the previous ones. Here are more sketches from imagination on human figure and a pair of heads. These were done really quickly, no more than 3 min on each of them.
January 18th, 2012 #30
More and more studies on human figure from both observation and imagination, trying to understand how shoulders and legs work, it's been difficult, I can understand the muscles that form the legs but applying round form to the different muscles, that is driving me crazy XD Which is the best way to learn anatomy?
By the way, I've got an important question and would appreciate a lot if you could try to help me. Andrew Loomis proposes drawing arcs of movement in order to draw the different angles of joints foreshortened. I understand that the circles are drawn from the joints so that the movement is correct, but I don't know how to draw them according to a vanishing point, for instance. I'm sorry if I don't explian myself properly. This is partly the page of that explanation
The problem lies on the fact that he does not explain how to draw the circles. He says those must be drawn using your eye (loose) and that is easy with a flat drawing, not with perspective and foreshortening. Any help??