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    [ASK] Does this rumours is true...?

    Hi, its been nice to join this great art society....Im such enthusiastic in the whole of art stuff...

    There's rumours going around in my place, that :

    If you wanna be a good draftsman / painter, you should do autopsy



    What do you think ?


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    If you think you will be a good draftsman / painter by doing autopsy I would say you are so wrong. The only thing I can see that is good for, is that it might help your understanding of anatomy better. But then again, one thing understanding it, and its an other thing actually drawing it well enough for others to understand it. You wont automatically start drawing the human form better just because of an autopsy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cub3 View Post
    There's rumors going around in my place, that :

    If you wanna be a good draftsman / painter, you should do autopsy
    ...where on earth do rumors like that go around? Not to mention, does that apply if you want to be a good environment painter...
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    That is sick.

    Now let's pick up some autopsy classes! Who want's to be the model?
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    As Leonardo became successful as an artist, he was given permission to dissect human corpses at the hospital Santa Maria Nuova in Florence. Later he dissected in Milan at the hospital Maggiore and in Rome at the hospital Santo Spirito (the first mainland Italian hospital). From 1510 to 1511 he collaborated in his studies with the doctor Marcantonio della Torre.
    If you all took art seriously, you'd dissect corpses.
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    Well, all the masters did it...But I think there are enough good artists today that show that dissecting corpses isn't really NECESSARY...

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    ... or you can just buy pretty expensive but realistic anatomical model to keep on your desk.

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    The actual act of dissecting a corpse is extremely difficult to undertake with the intention of learning anatomy for the sake of drawing. Yea you'll learn how to draw a dead, cut-up, body, but this is far from representative of a living specimen. Leonardo Da Vinci cut up his fair share of bodies and was a rather clever man yet he still managed to do some less than accurate anatomical drawings.

    A good, up-to date book on anatomy will likely help you far more, with regard to developing drawing skills, than performing an autopsy will. Don't forget, books are effectively years and years of collective information and knowledge compiled and condensed. So unless you've got a lot of time and access to a very large quantity of willing corpses, you're better off setting aside the morbid fascination fueling that rumor and picking up a book.

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    I've seen a human autopsy, for my biology class - and let me tell you, it doesn't help in the slightest bit as far as learning the anatomy you need for drawing goes. You want to learn about musculature and how muscles flex and contract, you don't need to see human insides, trust me.

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    I arranged to watch an autopsy before I went away to art school (the county coroner was a friend of my father's). Luckily for me, nobody died needing an autopsy in time -- the sort of thing a coroner does is extract organs and weigh them, examine stomach contents, things like that. It would have been an absolutely vile experience with no value to an artist whatever.

    Now, the Body Worlds display was fascinating. Ethically a little dodgy, but great to stare at. I went with a nurse friend of mine.
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    Maybe if you plan to draw a lot of zombies.

    Otherwise, not so much. If you think about it... a good artist draws many different kinds of things, not just human beings. So if you want to be a good artist do you also have to take cars apart? And houses? And dogs and cats and horses? What about if you want to be good at painting dragons, do you have to dissect dragons?

    As soon as you start thinking about what a great artist must be able to draw you realize that there are many things that the artist can draw that they can never see the inside of, so seeing the inside of something is not required to draw it well.
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    Autopsies are of no use whatsoever unless conducted in a stone castle and accompanied by organ music.
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    Once a year, I pour a couple of stiff drinks and read my Mom's autopsy report.

    Ah, memories!

    Me? I'm about as sentimental as an autopsy.

    Really, I don't think the traditional necropsy would be all that useful for an artist. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooly ESS View Post
    Autopsies are of no use whatsoever unless conducted in a stone castle and accompanied by organ music.
    LoL

    that's a rumour I can believe in.

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    If you want to be a good draftsman, you need to be a good observer. And to follow that up with that what is even more important and brought to us by Morpheus:

    "There's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path."

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    Some years ago (quite a few to be honest) in my art and design classes at college, my tutor suggested to go to a mortuary/morgue to actually draw and study the human form. But to not actually do autopsy, just go there to observe and draw. I never actually did though...

    ...but I do think it would be beneficial if one was allowed or the morticians gave permission to do this. I do actually consider trying this, I think it would be a very interesting experience...

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    Even if you wanted to, you can't. I went down to my Local Cadaver museum and it turns out that by some unwritten code of ethics, only medicine students are allowed anywhere near the things. And this is just a museum on a University Campus, not an actual autopsy.

    I was so sad because I had the amazing privilege of being able to see them in a Biotechnology camp-thing on campus, but I never got the chance to sit and do some studies because they kind of Chaperoned us through the display. It was awesome. They had human heads preserved in a kind of resin that prevented them from degrading and you could see all of the facial muscles intact.

    Another was on display where a Surgeon won an award for the cleanest symmetrical cut down the middle of the skull, everything preserved - skin, tongue, brain, everything, right down the middle. They even had Fetus's - one for each month after conception all the way up to birth. Feet, Spinal cords, Vital organs, Whole flayed torsos with the circulatory system still intact, they had EVERYTHING. No textbook even comes close to what you can make sense of just by seeing it.

    Sure, you don't need it to draw tweedle dee and tweedle dumpf, but if you can find a Cadaver museum, do whatever you can to get a tour, even do some studies if the owners are kind enough not to shoot you for it.


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