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November 29th, 2011 #1
JulieSS learning to crawl
I'm starting this sketchbook to have something public so that I have to actually work a bit harder on improving myself, and to have somewhere else than Facebook to post stuff.
Things I am currently focusing on:
- overcoming my fear of starting on a drawing
- stop trying to make the perfect line with every stroke I do
- working in shapes and forms
I need to learn more about EVERYTHING wohoooo!
I have got a tablet and I've used it quite alot the last year. Although I have to admit, I HAVE BEEN CHEATING.
Yes. I will crawl into my hole now and hide
But, I've come to the conclusion I want to improve all over, in general, and learn important things from the bottom up. Not just copy colors etc with the eyedrop tool in Photoshop and paint them onto my own stuff. I've got some stuff I've made and drawn I'm happy with, but I wanna leave them out for now as they are something completely different than this, starting from rock bottom.
I've bought two "learn to draw" books and working my way through the first one now.
The added attachments:
- pencil drawings from "tasks" in one of my books
- gesture drawings (90sec)
- free hand drawing from Photoshop (I know one of the eyes is a bit funny)
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A good start, congratulations! I can see the potential, keep it going
November 30th, 2011 #3
Here is a horse head I did last night. It turned into more than planned!
Areas I'm unhappy with:
- the top of the head where the hair is, haven't figured out how to draw hair etc with a pencil yet
- need to work on values, which I kinda already know
- the horses right eye doesn't look right, it seems to be sticking out too much
- needs more detailing around the lips and nostrils
- it looks like a horse
- jawbone looks better than expected
- overall it is better than I thought it would be
It might look a bit strange proportion wise because of two things, one it's a foal and two, my freehand drawing hehehe... It's neck is alot skinnier than an adult horses for example.
Sadly the picture takes away a bit of depth but also like I said... need to work on values.
PS: The horse has got one glass eye, I didn't forget to color it!
January 3rd, 2012 #4
I've wasted most of December with being scared of my pencil and also my tablet. Don't know how to turn this habit around!
I have done some pencil practice but my poor mobile phone camera can't seem to capture them in a respectable way. Thinking of joining one of the anatomy study groups I found here on the forum to give myself a definite kick up the a**.
The tulip is made in Painter, I'm trying to check it out a bit more instead of only using Photoshop.
January 3rd, 2012 #5
Some quick dog sketches with a little bit of sneaky color on them.
January 3rd, 2012 #6
Tips for sketching hair, in particular counterintuitively benefits from using block coverage and the odd strands of hair with carefully placed highlights. It's tempting to draw every strand but this will be far from realistic.
I you use the eye dropper tool people will know
Good luck on your sketchbook journey
January 3rd, 2012 #7
Thanks for the feedback, are you thinking of the horse drawing? Any help is appreciated, like I said, I got no clue how to do it with a pencil yet, hehe.. digitally I got the hang of it more than with a pencil, like fur for example. Still easy to overcomplicate it though!
I have done a couple of dogs earlier where I painted on every single strand of hair and like you said...it doesn't look good at all. I have saved them just to look back on like a warning! Hehe.
Some 1 minute gesture drawings.
It is interesting to see that it took me about 6 drawings before I switched my brain off and started to do it the easy way.
February 14th, 2012 #8
I'm letting this poor thread down.
Some quick sketches. I'm trying to learn how to use Painter.
February 14th, 2012 #9
February 14th, 2012 #10
Dodson has some good advice (leave restatements as-is), but I think Nicolaides goes even further on the topic of drawing more/worrying less. In particular, he stresses the importance of experience during studies, rather than product. Keeping that in mind has helped me with the anxiety of staring at a blank page.
Nice sketchbook here--keep going!
February 15th, 2012 #11
Haha, yes, I am indeed suffering from that anxiety too! It's like trying to start writing an essay at school, isn't it!
Instead of doing smart things like studies I've been playing around in Painter.
I did the lineart myself from a reference picture, then used drop tool for the colors. Been testing different brushes and woring with the "grainy water" blender on different resat settings.
The eye is not the best, but the overall result was better than expected, never done a bird before.
February 16th, 2012 #12
Found a bodybuilding book and did some sketches. I was quite happy with the first few men in the one with several sketches on, so then I started focusing too hard and they all ended up being stubby, small men! Sigh.
February 17th, 2012 #13
Trying again, I don't understand why it says that sometimes my post must be approved by a moderator and sometimes not?
I did sort of a value practice today, on the first one I tried to do with picking my own colors while looking at the picture with the colors still present, with the second one I desaturated the original and tried to copy the colors I could see.
February 18th, 2012 #14
A quick skull before bed, this was quite fun (about 5 minutes) and I will definitely do more skulls and from different angles.
The colors turned a bit funny when I resized in Painter but they are not the important bit here anyway.
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If you see the mistakes, why don't you fix them afterwards?
February 18th, 2012 #16
With quick things like this I wanna try to improve my sketching and sense of form. I feel it might take the point out of doing it quick if I start to go over the lines slowly to perfect them, I wanna train my eyes and my hand to capture what I see and be able to put it down as close as possible. I don't know if that is a backwards way of doing it, but I need to switch my brain off and "just do it" instead of overthinking my lines etc The comments are to show myself (and others who might read this thread) that I'm consciously thinking about what I'm doing and not just rambling on without actually realizing what I'm doing, hehe.
Thanks for feedback!
PS: I like the trolls in your SB ^^
February 19th, 2012 #17
good start here, you definitively have potential. As Lukas A said, if you see a mistake try to correct it, even in a quick drawing, this will help you in the long run.
Apart from that, thanks for visiting my SB, keep drawing, great start.
February 19th, 2012 #18
Edit: Didnt see your reply, so just making a quick edit. Alright then, I'm convinced to invest some more time in some of the sketches and try to correct wrong lines etc.
Also thanks for kind words ^^
I found Hogarth in PDF, so I'm gonna give some of that a go. It requires alot of me to do self structured studies! :/
Another skull and also some quick sloppy facial muscles.
The red lines on the skull are traced from the picture, so where my lines "should have" been.
April 5th, 2012 #19
Just some stuff for fun.
April 5th, 2012 #20
That alligator (crocodile?) looks nice! You clearly have a love for animals.
Anyways, a few comments! Do you crop your images, or draw them within the frame that you start with? I ask, because some of them seem to be ye olde traditional fear of the edge of the page. Your first body builder seems a bit squished into the frame. And some of the later animals seem to also conform to the frame.
For example, look at the alligator in comparison to the full-bodied animals that you have. Since the alligator is already cropped, there's no reason to have a fear of the edge of the page! But the full-bodied people/animals, you wanna fit the whole thing on... so you might end up smashin' them in even though it isn't proportionally correct.
But that's an easy correction. If you work digitally, just give yourself a huge frame!
And keep on going! It's a good start!
April 5th, 2012 #21
Hi, thanks alot for your comments
I normally work on a 1500x1500 pixels when I do things for fun, and then I do a really close crop and resize afterwards. If I do commissions etc. I go larger or to whichever size the person asks for.
When I first started I DID have a fear of space, most definitely. Everything I did was small and crammed into very little space! I'm glad to see this is something I have improved on subconsciously If I notice that I'm working too close to the edge these days, I either extend the canvas or move my work layer.
April 5th, 2012 #22
It really shows how much you enjoy drawing animals. You know, humans are technically a type of animal too; you might have better luck with those bodybuilders if you think of them that way
The parrot and alligator have a great feel to them.
Best advice I can think of is to maybe try drawing more structurally instead of doing contours - you end up losing track of proportions while focusing on the contours.
I look forward to seeing more!
April 5th, 2012 #23
Thank you for an interesting reply!
With structure intead of only contours, do you mean for example do more bones and muscles of animals too, and not just the exterior?
Edit: Ahh I think I read it the wrong way. Do you mean not just focus so much on the outline and make sure I place stuff in the right place like eyes, distance between lines etc?
April 5th, 2012 #24Edit: Ahh I think I read it the wrong way. Do you mean not just focus so much on the outline and make sure I place stuff in the right place like eyes, distance between lines etc?
April 7th, 2012 #25
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April 7th, 2012 #26
I know there is alot of pure black color in this one. Sorry! Hehe
The area between the nose and his left eye is really horrible, I can see that now.
April 8th, 2012 #27
I tried to do a value study. Realized too far into it that it might be smart to chose an object and not someones face, as a portrait in itself is tough enough to draw!
I am happy it turned out better than I thought it would, and at the same time I think I can do better if I focus more. Got a bad habit of starting, putting down the pen, doing a bit more, leaving it etc.
So, just keep in mind it's not meant to be a perfect portrait, hehe.
I found the areas around the eyes and the lips hard and gave up a little bit towards the end.
Might be a bit much pure black in this picture too?
April 8th, 2012 #28
Hey, this is pretty nice. You should probably make the background lighter to make the face easier to read. I don't think the pure black is a huge problem here, but you might want to pick a better lit subject next time.
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April 8th, 2012 #29
Wow! Good stuff! Keep it up, you're inspiring me. After seeing your work, I feel I have to potential to the same!
He said the roots of education were bitter but the fruits sweet.
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In general it may be really helpful to think of everything in terms of simple 3D objects (cubes are best, but also spheres, pyramids, etc) because it helps you know, every time, were different shadows and highlights should be. For example, a cube has 4 sides, a top and a bottom, 6 planes in all. Depending on the lighting an entire plane is either lit, in shadow, or a midtone. If you learn the planar separations of anything, it'll help you be able to understand where features and different values go. Bridgeman books go into a little detail with planes of human body parts, and Andrew Loomis books (especially Head and Hands) goes into a lot of detail on it. But if you understand how structure affects value then you'll be able to draw lots of different things and convey it's form better.
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