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    Hiya everyone!

    I've recently been taking life drawing classes, and I was wondering if you guys could critique my stuff. I'd post it all directly into the thread, but I already have all of it set up on my flickr account and I've deleted the photos from my phone. Please click here for my life drawing sketches and such!

    I'm also working on a portfolio for getting into university next year, and what I've done so far can be found here. I'd really appreciate any and all input, because criticism is a beautiful thing.

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    I think you should keep practicing, put more effort into what you are doing and you will get somewhere... It would be nice to do some longer study, not just sketches with a few lines and not much more. They are important, especially gesture studies but a skull anatomy study requires more care and love I think
    I see you use some Bridgman book. I personally use several sources, every book is different and people too. Sometimes you tumble upon an artist's tutorial and instantly learn something about the topic you have drawn for years...

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    One of your biggest weaknesses in these pieces is your lack of a 3-D sense. Most of your stuff is very flat, even when it should be foreshortened, and shading/colouring doesn't really show a good understanding of the form that's being rendered. More work with these sorts of forms would do you a world of good, and learning to apply that to your pieces will go a long way.

    Changing up your styles of gesture will help too. On the shorter poses (two minutes or less, say), try not lifting the pencil off the page, or doing it all in as few lines as possible, or constructing the figure out of boxes, or using your wrong hand. It can help a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiNIN View Post
    I think you should keep practicing, put more effort into what you are doing and you will get somewhere... It would be nice to do some longer study, not just sketches with a few lines and not much more. They are important, especially gesture studies but a skull anatomy study requires more care and love I think
    I see you use some Bridgman book. I personally use several sources, every book is different and people too. Sometimes you tumble upon an artist's tutorial and instantly learn something about the topic you have drawn for years...
    Well I'm hoping to get a couple more anatomy books once I have a little bit more money - it's in my amazon basket! I'm mostly using Bridgeman at the moment, but I do have some Vilppu things as well... I was thinking of using a different sketchbook for the Bridgeman and Vilppu studies though. What do you think?


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    Just my opinion, but trying to run before you have learnt to walk is not a good idea.

    Forget the complicated form of humans for now and get plenty of mileage in rendering those basic forms that are in the link Nezumi Works provided. After you have got a good grasp of basic form , do some still life, after a good grasp of still life, get yourself a copy of Figure Drawing Design and Invention by Michael Hampton and get back to Life Drawing Class

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    I wouldn't say give up on humans, just add a lot more foundation work along with your humans. After all, if your goal is to draw people well, you're not going to get there by not drawing people. Anatomy study, basic shape study and life drawing go hand in hand, and as you do them think about how one applies to the other.

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    I think its reasonable to say you are not going to get good at drawing humans unless you are good at rendering basic shapes considering human form is just a load of basic shapes with dints with bumps.

    You only have to look around forum and you can see loads have skipped or skimmed through THE BASICS of Drawing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezumi Works View Post
    One of your biggest weaknesses in these pieces is your lack of a 3-D sense. Most of your stuff is very flat, even when it should be foreshortened, and shading/colouring doesn't really show a good understanding of the form that's being rendered. More work with these sorts of forms would do you a world of good, and learning to apply that to your pieces will go a long way.

    Changing up your styles of gesture will help too. On the shorter poses (two minutes or less, say), try not lifting the pencil off the page, or doing it all in as few lines as possible, or constructing the figure out of boxes, or using your wrong hand. It can help a lot.
    How would you suggest I do studies like that, though? I don't have any 3D software and my tablet pen is on the fritz!

    Yes, I've been working on my gestures a little bit more... I'm watching TV and quickly sketching down gestures, though I know that I need a lot of work in that area.

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    @ Charlie D

    Hey, my name is Charlie too! Yeah, I see what you mean - though I feel uncomfortable with just stopping my anatomy studies and my people studies. After all, I do have a life drawing class to attend to that I'm paying for - it'd be a waste to just stop! I understand where you're coming from, though, and I'm going to look into more basic things. I have been trying to do some more, but I'm a bit confused in where to start...

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    Yeah, I'd feel a lot better if I were working on all of the above rather than stripping down my work with people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whatpants View Post
    How would you suggest I do studies like that, though? I don't have any 3D software and my tablet pen is on the fritz!

    Thanks for your help!
    It's not about the 3d software, just understanding and processing that everything you see can be broken down into basic 3-Dimensional shapes - Cubes/Rectangular Boxes, Wedges, Cylinders, Pyramids, Cones, Spheres. Everything can be 'constructed' or refined.

    Try taking an every day object, such as a cell phone or a camera, bottle of soda - anything, just make sure it's simple at first. Try to analyze it and see what basic shapes it's made up of. This is one of the first assignments we had in Basic Drawing last year - We had to make a still life and analyze the basic constructive shapes.

    Here's a good process. I traced over a photo of a digital camera. If you're not comfortable or are having trouble constructing on your own at first, don't be afraid to trace photos of things in order to analyze them. There's no shame in it! You're doing it to learn. (Others may disagree - it helped me!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatpants View Post
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    it'd be a waste to just stop.

    Definitely. so keep going. In between get looking around your home for cubes, spheres, cylinders and cone shapes. Observe/ analyse and draw. Then repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie D View Post
    Definitely. so keep going. In between get looking around your home for cubes, spheres, cylinders and cone shapes. Observe/ analyse and draw. Then repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pezz View Post
    It's not about the 3d software, just understanding and processing that everything you see can be broken down into basic 3-Dimensional shapes - Cubes/Rectangular Boxes, Wedges, Cylinders, Pyramids, Cones, Spheres. Everything can be 'constructed' or refined.

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    Here's a good process. I traced over a photo of a digital camera. If you're not comfortable or are having trouble constructing on your own at first, don't be afraid to trace photos of things in order to analyze them. There's no shame in it! You're doing it to learn. (Others may disagree - it helped me!)

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    Oh okay! This was really helpful, thank you! So I can just take anything in my room and try to find a simpler way to draw it, with cubes and rectangles and such? Sort of like Cezanne's way of picturing things, right?

    I think this will help me a lot. Thank you so much for your examples and your time. ♥


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    Okay, sounds like solid advice! I've started already and it's actually quite fun. Thank you for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatpants View Post
    Oh okay! This was really helpful, thank you! So I can just take anything in my room and try to find a simpler way to draw it, with cubes and rectangles and such? Sort of like Cezanne's way of picturing things, right?

    I think this will help me a lot. Thank you so much for your examples and your time. ♥
    No problem! Be sure to start a thread in the Sketchbook section and upload your progress from time to time. I'll keep an eye on ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pezz View Post
    No problem! Be sure to start a thread in the Sketchbook section and upload your progress from time to time. I'll keep an eye on ya
    I have a sketchbook in my signature, but I need to remember to update it! I'll have to make sure you have something worthwhile to look at ;D

    at the moment i'm mostly using flickr for convenience's sake, though


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