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    ...Is this a man or a woman? The musculature and lack of visible breasts kinda says man, but the hair and body shape says woman, and the face is kinda both. Did you use reference?
    Also where is your lightsource? The face and hair are lit from different sides.

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    I didn't want to have to do this, but it looks like it might be necessary. The hair and the face are lit from the left side and yes it is a man. If you look at the unfinished painting you can see that the left side of the face has a stronger light source then the right and so the hair follows the left light source. The upper body is definitely a man due to the shoulders, muscles and the lack of breasts. Once you said is it a man or woman I immediately saw that the left hip looked a little too curved and big, so I will fix that once I continue to work on it. Please keep in mind that not only woman have long hair and are beautiful...lol. I sort of used reference for the face but mostly from imagination. I needed to see how shadow fell under the cheek bones. But, nonetheless I appreciate the questions because they got me thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    The hair and the face are lit from the left side and yes it is a man. If you look at the unfinished painting you can see that the left side of the face has a stronger light source then the right and so the hair follows the left light source.
    Actually, the face is lit pretty much from the direction of the viewer, and the fair is lit from the side. there's no highlights in the hair in the same places as the face does (for example, his nose is fully lit, but his forehead is not) and I'd really suggest you mirror your image occasionally. All his features are pointing upwards. Check out the Loomis books for drawing heads: http://alexhays.com/loomis/

    Please keep in mind that not only woman have long hair and are beautiful...lol
    It's not the long hair, it's the bangs. If a guy is wearing the same hair-do as I did when I was five and wore a frilly dress with pink bows in my hair, it's going to look questionable. And in any case I would recommend using a proper reference to that hair too.

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    I appreciate your time taken to look at my work, but I honestly don't see why you redrew the face....??? His features are meant to be pointing upwards because his head is tilted upwards. I also mirror my image a lot . I have the loomis books in my library and I haven't really looked at the all too much yet. Oh and I like the hair...lol. Thank you once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    because his head is tilted upwards.
    Then shouldn't we see at least some of the underside of his chin? Not to mention that his nose is still crooked to the side, he has a weird lump in the back of his head and his other eye is way higher than the other. basically the construction of his head is completely mangled.
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    (tilted in the different direction though)

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    You are very adamant, but nothing is wrong with the angle of his face. The second picture is the angle that fits my painting. You don't need to see the underside of his chin because his head is not tilted that high up. He doesn't have a weird lump his hair is being pulled down and blown by the wind that's why it is up in that one spot. His nose follows the line and curve of his face and body. It is simply a curved line. Yes his eye is a little higher than the other. I will fix that before the final version. Thank you for the criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    You are very adamant, but nothing is wrong with the angle of his face. The second picture is the angle that fits my painting.
    EVERYTHING is wrong and lopsided about the angle of your subject's face. Redraw it.. if you would like your painting to read correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    He doesn't have a weird lump his hair is being pulled down and blown by the wind that's why it is up in that one spot.
    You really don't know how long hair actually works in wind, do you?

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    that's a really vague statement and I don't understand what you mean by lopsided. BTW That is NOT constructive criticism that is rudeness. Explain if you are correct please. Just saying it is wrong will not help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    I appreciate your time taken to look at my work, but I honestly don't see why you redrew the face....???
    Get Loomis textbooks, proceed to half a year of practice doing structural drawing and life drawing. Until you learn to see what's wrong with this face.

    (Do it with pencil on paper, not Photoshop.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionicpaint View Post
    that's a really vague statement and I don't understand what you mean by lopsided. BTW That is NOT constructive criticism that is rudeness. Explain if you are correct please. Just saying it is wrong will not help me.
    Not really, I hear worse/more every day at art school. Being told everything is wrong with your facial structure in your painting is not rude. It is overly blunt but it is the truth.. since you've refuted previous posts and told TinyBird she's wrong.

    It was explained to you previously by TinyBird but here is my redline outlining the structure as you've drawn it.

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    Hi matey

    I'm very sorry to tell you this but Tinybird crit is bang on as usual, please try to remember that most people who provide crits in this forum are trying to help and yes some hurt.

    The other way to look at this is you are doing an illustration of something, you put it out in the world and you are shocked to find that people are not seeing what you do.

    Question time :- are the crits all saying the same thing, yes means there is something amis and you need to adress it (in your own way yes but you must! MUST! address the problems). If you dont then the illustration fails and you dont get paid or worse no more work!
    No means its close but subject to everyones random viewpoints, which is a worse place to be in my opinion.
    Finaly Are you getting ass pats? enjoy them you did good!

    there is a brilliant thread you should look at too :-
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